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    Re: Health Care Bill has passed

    Quote Originally Posted by 1069 View Post

    Maybe you should find somewhere else to live, then, because this is modern civilization.
    Don't give me that horse****. This is grand theft taxation, this is forced redistribution, and as unamerican as Borscht.
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    Re: Health Care Bill has passed

    Quote Originally Posted by digsbe View Post
    A fringe group that constitutes the majority of American?! There is no spin, just facts. The spin is the emotional appeal that the Democrats try to use in order to make us feel heartsick over people dying because of evil insurance companies. Yet we are rewarding the special interests of these companies by illegally forcing everyone to give money to them. True the insurance companies don't have people's best interests at heart, but neither does the Democrat party and that shows with their rewarding the insurance companies and with their ignoring the majority of America.
    Please, illustrate, link or document how the bill or the Dems are rewarding insurance companies, who, by and large were dead set against the bill, in any form. If the bill were so rewarding to insurance companies, why were they dead against it? I patiently await your response.

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    Re: Health Care Bill has passed

    Quote Originally Posted by donc View Post
    Don,t worry about it Lex, i,ve seen the same scare tactics used once before in my lifetime, that was when medicare was passed.

    Almost looks like I have entered a damn time warp seeing the same lies being rolled out
    Hmm, you do realize that Medicare is unsustainable, right?

    Private insurance largely subsidizes Medicare.

    It may take a while, but we'll find that this is more of the same.

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    Re: Health Care Bill has passed

    Quote Originally Posted by LaMidRighter View Post
    Other people aren't my responsibility, and I am sick and ****ing tired of literally everyone getting access to other people's money, services, and time. This needs to end, not expand like this bill seeks to do.
    I suppose that make my position somewhat difficult for you to stomach then. A small business owner who, at heart, cares about the welfare of others. There is a value to living in a safe society of healthy, educated people. I think it's a noble cause to strive for such an existence, even if it sounds somewhat Utopian.

    There are good uses of tax dollars, and bad uses. The war in Iraq is a good example of how to squander hundreds of billions for absolutely no ROI. I rarely see conservatives complaining about this. Yet this health care bill...well, that is another story.

    I don't know why this surprises me. It's simply par for the course.
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    Re: Health Care Bill has passed

    Quote Originally Posted by Lerxst View Post

    I suppose that make my position somewhat difficult for you to stomach then. A small business owner who, at heart, cares about the welfare of others. There is a value to living in a safe society of healthy, educated people. I think it's a noble cause to strive for such an existence, even if it sounds somewhat Utopian.

    There are good uses of tax dollars, and bad uses. The war in Iraq is a good example of how to squander hundreds of billions for absolutely no ROI. I rarely see conservatives complaining about this. Yet this health care bill...well, that is another story.

    I don't know why this surprises me. It's simply par for the course.
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    Re: Health Care Bill has passed

    Quote Originally Posted by LaMidRighter View Post
    Other people aren't my responsibility, and I am sick and ****ing tired of literally everyone getting access to other people's money, services, and time. This needs to end, not expand like this bill seeks to do.
    You're paying and going to pay, anyway. What this bill does is alters how this occurs. I haven't looked into the fine print of this thing. From what I know there are some things I like, and there are some that I do not. It will help me professionally in some ways, and hurt in others. Personally, it will affect me very little. My guess is that will be true for most people.

    Some of the conservative reaction to this reminds me of some of the liberal reaction when Bush was elected in '00. I heard some folks saying that it was like electing Hitler. It wasn't. Those who think the passing of this bill is "the end" are being overdramatic and over reacting. It isn't.
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    Re: Health Care Bill has passed


    Health insurance is not 1/6 of the US economy.

    Health care costs in the US are equal to around 15% of the US GDP, with at least last year 40% or so being covered by the various governments. Meaning healt insurance would be at most 1/11 of the US.
    Healthcare and Health Insurance aren't the same thing. As well, you may have missed that little point that every single company reinvests into insurance companies. As well, you just mentioned that health costs are 15% of GDP. That is a misnomer, the GDP is an aggregate, health costs are individual outlays........well, apparently not anymore, now that the government is close to being completely on the hook it'll be a problem of the aggregate.

    Also the government will not allow health care to be overused, as it will restrict usage depending on funding. Expensive options will most likely not be covered by the government side, making less expensive options the primary choice
    [/QUOTE] Ah, so we're forced to pay taxes on services they deem we cannot recieve at this time, that would be rationing. Sure, why not? Sounds like a great idea.....I mean.....if you don't mind that whole dying thing.
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    Re: Health Care Bill has passed

    Quote Originally Posted by digsbe View Post
    A fringe group that constitutes the majority of American?! There is no spin, just facts. The spin is the emotional appeal that the Democrats try to use in order to make us feel heartsick over people dying because of evil insurance companies. Yet we are rewarding the special interests of these companies by illegally forcing everyone to give money to them. True the insurance companies don't have people's best interests at heart, but neither does the Democrat party and that shows with their rewarding the insurance companies and with their ignoring the majority of America.

    This is the pot call the kettle black, the GOP uses spin and fear everyday, Iraq, health care, illegal immigrants, etc.
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    Re: Health Care Bill has passed

    Quote Originally Posted by 1069 View Post
    You're a beautiful person, Lerxst.
    Well I have my moments I guess.
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    Re: Health Care Bill has passed

    Quote Originally Posted by Lerxst View Post
    I suppose that make my position somewhat difficult for you to stomach then. A small business owner who, at heart, cares about the welfare of others. There is a value to living in a safe society of healthy, educated people. I think it's a noble cause to strive for such an existence, even if it sounds somewhat Utopian.
    There is nothing noble about forcing your neighbor to pay for others wellbeing. I care about others as well, but when I can give....I choose to do so, I don't want it forcible taken from me for things that are not constitutional.

    There are good uses of tax dollars, and bad uses. The war in Iraq is a good example of how to squander hundreds of billions for absolutely no ROI. I rarely see conservatives complaining about this. Yet this health care bill...well, that is another story.
    This health bill is crap.
    Neither side in an argument can find the truth when both make an absolute claim on it.

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