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    Re: Health Care Bill has passed

    Quote Originally Posted by Goldenboy219 View Post
    Judgment calls on what make the economy better (micro) are dangerous. There are two aspects that are primary engines: health care and education.

    Now with that in mind, the goal should be (macro) to increase access to both. Just like you cannot make a person healthy, you cannot make a person take math. However.... There is an extremely strong positive correlation in regards to higher skills in mathematics and higher lifetime earning and or wealth. Increase the access and let the market decide. If someone really wants to make more money, they will embark on an education that is heavily entwined in mathematics.
    I'm just thinking in terms of what is needed.
    The extra grant benefits are being allotted to nurses, I figure that qualifies as part of the sciences.

    The problem though now is that nursing programs are facing waiting lists.

    Quote Originally Posted by Goldenboy219 View Post
    It is impossible to dichotomize whether personal growth does not lead to economic growth. Some people really enjoy math.
    Understandable, I don't want anyone to be denied with what they want to do.
    If it is to be done, it should be more flexible to at least allow the person the opportunity to fit it in their schedule.

    Quote Originally Posted by Goldenboy219 View Post
    The market already gives the incentive: you will make more money (on average). Attempting to hinder the creative process in favor of more math can have negative cultural effects.
    True enough, I think there is problem though with the relaying of that information.
    For some reason, people don't want to do it in larger numbers with the pay being what it is.

    Quote Originally Posted by Goldenboy219 View Post
    It is something that i am afraid cannot be measured nominally. More scientists and less chefs might sound good to you, but what negative impact would it have (long run) on the hospitality industry? Get the idea?
    That's not what I'm saying.
    Chefs have their place and should exist but the lack of science majors is a problem.

    Quote Originally Posted by Goldenboy219 View Post
    I really am against micro management in the higher education process, especially in the form of policy application. American Universities are by far (and by a long shot) the best in the world. The next Conan O'Brian can might become an ordinary mechanical engineer. What does that do for economic growth
    I have to admit I haven't studied the college end of things as much but thinking about it now, I have to agree.

    Educational management shouldn't really exist on any level, primary to collegiate.
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    Re: Health Care Bill has passed

    Now, finally after this bill passed people are getting more involved.

    The polls will soon show that it is not the health care reform that people hate but the process by congress in doing anything about it.

    Here's a bitch I have about medicare. Viagra is prescribed by doctors like it was candy. Being flaccid is not an illness, disease, injury, etc. I know people who have asthma who can only get one inhaler per month even though they need more sometimes. They are only allowed on puffer per month to help them breathe. If they need more the cost is usually about $47 per inhaler. For a person trying to survive on SS it is usually to costly for them.

    I am for people being able to breathe before I am before people having a drug induced boner.

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    Re: Health Care Bill has passed

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    Re: Health Care Bill has passed

    Quote Originally Posted by LiberalAvenger View Post

    The polls will soon show that it is not the health care reform that people hate but the process by congress in doing anything about it.
    No, it's mostly about the fact that in no way can states or people possibly afford this.

    Obama has directly or indirectly taken over GM, Chrysler, AIG, Fannie, Freddie, Lehman, numerous banks, etc, and now healthcare. Now he's got amnesty, financial control of Wall Street, and cap and trade in his crosshairs.

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    Re: Health Care Bill has passed

    Quote Originally Posted by Erod View Post
    No, it's mostly about the fact that in no way can states or people possibly afford this.

    Obama has directly or indirectly taken over GM, Chrysler, AIG, Fannie, Freddie, Lehman, numerous banks, etc, and now healthcare. Now he's got amnesty, financial control of Wall Street, and cap and trade in his crosshairs.
    Awww.... How cute. Systemic risk does not seem to be in your vocabulary. Better brush up a bit
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    Re: Health Care Bill has passed

    Quote Originally Posted by Goldenboy219 View Post
    Awww.... How cute. Systemic risk does not seem to be in your vocabulary. Better brush up a bit
    Systemic risk? LOL, yeah right.

    More like heavily unioned companies and liberal-agenda agencies cloaked as financial institutions.

    That was about votes and trying to keep the cat in the bag about where this financial mess originated (cough, cough, Frank and Dodd, cough).

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    Re: Health Care Bill has passed

    The math is getting done by US industry..... it AIN'T PRETTY!

    Deere sees $150 million hit from healthcare reform

    The law could raise expenses for large U.S. employers.


    Thursday, March 25, 2010
    (Reuters) - Farm equipment maker Deere & Co (DE.N) expects after-tax expenses to rise by $150 million this year as a result of the healthcare reform law President Barack Obama signed this week.

    Most of the higher expense will come in Deere's second quarter, the company said on Thursday. The expense was not included in the company's earlier 2010 forecast, which called for net income of about $1.3 billion.

    Caterpillar Inc (CAT.N) said on Wednesday it would take a $100 million after-tax charge to earnings in the first quarter because the new law will lower its tax deductions. Obama on Tuesday signed the most sweeping U.S. social policy legislation in decades into law.........................
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    Re: Health Care Bill has passed

    Quote Originally Posted by ConservaBill View Post
    The math is getting done by US industry..... it AIN'T PRETTY!

    Deere sees $150 million hit from healthcare reform

    The law could raise expenses for large U.S. employers.


    Thursday, March 25, 2010
    (Reuters) - Farm equipment maker Deere & Co (DE.N) expects after-tax expenses to rise by $150 million this year as a result of the healthcare reform law President Barack Obama signed this week.

    Most of the higher expense will come in Deere's second quarter, the company said on Thursday. The expense was not included in the company's earlier 2010 forecast, which called for net income of about $1.3 billion.

    Caterpillar Inc (CAT.N) said on Wednesday it would take a $100 million after-tax charge to earnings in the first quarter because the new law will lower its tax deductions. Obama on Tuesday signed the most sweeping U.S. social policy legislation in decades into law.........................
    Nothing that laying off 10,000 people won't solve.

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    Re: Health Care Bill has passed

    Quote Originally Posted by ConservaBill View Post
    The math is getting done by US industry..... it AIN'T PRETTY!

    Deere sees $150 million hit from healthcare reform

    The law could raise expenses for large U.S. employers.


    Thursday, March 25, 2010
    (Reuters) - Farm equipment maker Deere & Co (DE.N) expects after-tax expenses to rise by $150 million this year as a result of the healthcare reform law President Barack Obama signed this week.

    Most of the higher expense will come in Deere's second quarter, the company said on Thursday. The expense was not included in the company's earlier 2010 forecast, which called for net income of about $1.3 billion.

    Caterpillar Inc (CAT.N) said on Wednesday it would take a $100 million after-tax charge to earnings in the first quarter because the new law will lower its tax deductions. Obama on Tuesday signed the most sweeping U.S. social policy legislation in decades into law.........................
    Closing a corporate tax loophole............I am sure they can find another.
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    Re: Health Care Bill has passed

    Quote Originally Posted by Erod View Post
    Systemic risk? LOL, yeah right.

    More like heavily unioned companies and liberal-agenda agencies cloaked as financial institutions.

    That was about votes and trying to keep the cat in the bag about where this financial mess originated (cough, cough, Frank and Dodd, cough).
    You just do not seem to have a clue about how credit markets function, or how industry interdependency effects non failing firms. Get back to me when you have some decent analysis. I won't be expecting much though
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