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    Re: Arizona sheriff launches immigration sweep

    So far Arpaio has not bee charged either. Innocent till proven guilty. If he is charged and found guilty, then I may believe. IMO, there has been to much politics enter into law enforcement in Maricopa county. Some supervisors bend over backwards for the illegals.

    Have you noticed the amazing coincidence that supervisors, critics and other political foes are constantly investigated on charges without merit?

    Arpaio, county attorney abandon racketeering case

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    Re: Arizona sheriff launches immigration sweep

    Quote Originally Posted by Catz Part Deux View Post
    How does one really answer a question like this?
    LOL that should have read laws or in the Constitution.

    But you never have a typo do you? Talk about petty.
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    Re: Arizona sheriff launches immigration sweep

    Quote Originally Posted by Catz Part Deux View Post
    This is probably the best summary, a report from the Goldwater Institute, a rabidly far left think tank.

    http://www.goldwaterinstitute.org/Co...complished.pdf
    Here's a good section:

    Lets look at the section in this clearly biased study:

    Other jurisdictions, such as the Mesa Police Department, focus on violent crimes and determine immigration status after the suspects are booked into jail.40

    Please explain how this is unconstitutional

    Even for MCSO, that approach yields far more illegal immigrants: The Republic reports that MCSO jailers have identified 16,000 illegal immigrants during the booking process, compared to 2,000 who have been arrested by the human smuggling unit and only 200 or so who have been arrested in sweeps.41

    Again, please cite where this is unconstitutional

    But MCSO has diverted substantial resources away from other law-enforcement activities to the immigration sweeps and the human-smuggling unit.42 As Arpaio described it, “We are quickly becoming a full-fledged anti-illegal immigration agency.”43 The eight sweeps have involved hundreds of deputies and thousands of work days.44 Th e Tribune found that “MCSO has repeatedly used regular patrol deputies for immigration enforcement.”45 The human smuggling unit was staffed through “temporary” reassignments of deputies from patrol units, many of which were not replaced.

    Once again not unconstitutional. If you believe so, please quote the Constitution

    In addition to diverting patrol deputies from their normal assignments, the shift in focus resulted in massive overtime. Shortly after the ICE contract was signed, deputies amassed 4,500 extra hours per two-week pay period, compared to the previous average of 2,900 overtime hours. The predictable result was a $1.3 million deficit in MCSO’s budget in only three months. The sheriff covered part of the deficit by keeping patrol division positions unfilled, to the tune of 66 deputies. Meanwhile, the sheriff curtailed overtime. On at least one occasion, as many as 46 criminal defendants missed their court appearances because deputies were told to skip overtime.46
    Likewise, immigration enforcement diminished. As the Tribune reports, MCSO “eliminated its deficit,” but “deputies now rarely arrest illegal immigrants under the state smuggling law, MCSO records show, even when suspects are clearly involved in human smuggling.”47


    Once again not Unconstitutional Did you even bother to read this before cutting and pasting?

    MCSO’s massive diversion of resources into policing illegal immigration—largely in communities such as Phoenix and Mesa that have police departments—coincides with growing rates of violent crimes, plummeting arrest rates, and increased response time to citizens’ calls for help.48 At the same time, the Republic found that crime rates in areas that were the subject of saturation raids were largely unchanged after the sweeps.49

    And once again not unconstitutional

    If you actually bothered to read what you cut and paste you would be better off. Absolutely nothing in any of that post shows anything done to be unconstitutional. If you still dispute it, please quote the Constitution and cite the passage.

    Just because it sounds good doesn't make it a good idea to claim it in an argument. Try to remember that next time.
    Last edited by texmaster; 03-19-10 at 08:45 PM.
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    Re: Arizona sheriff launches immigration sweep

    Quote Originally Posted by ConservaBill View Post
    Then YOU'd be wrong!

    He does NOTHING outside the Constitution, that's why the "social justice" lawyers have been unable to do anything but drag him to court. It is typical however for other liberals activists to take these fruitless challenges alone as as direct hit... epic fail... again.. and again.. and ... WELL you get the picture.
    Its pretty obvious the liberals like jallman and Catz Part Deux are using that term with zero knowledge to what it actually means. If they did, they would have quoted the Constitution but they can't.
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    Re: Arizona sheriff launches immigration sweep

    Quote Originally Posted by mike2810 View Post
    I just love when statements are not true. Check out the Az Republic (which by the way does not support Sheriff Joe much of the time.

    "Crime rates in Maricopa County have seen a significant decrease over the past five years, according to a report released Wednesday by the County Attorney's Office.

    The overall crime rate per 100,000 people in the county decreased 18 percent from 2004 to 2008. During the same period, the violent-crime rate dropped 8 percent and the property-crime rate fell by 21 percent.

    The decline occurred even though the county's population grew by nearly 11 percent over that time.

    Report: County crime rate down 18% in past 5 years

    So lets see crime down 18% in our county. I like it just fine. Now if the cities like Phoenix, Scottsdale, Glendale, would get on board with illegals, I would imagine the rate would go down further.

    The county supervisors take money away from the Sheriff Departmetn. Joe still finds ways to get the job done. Sheriff Joe has also gone after employers. He just doesn't go after individuals. Spend some time in Arizona and Maricopa County. You would see that the country law enforcement is providing a needed service.
    How dare you attack him with facts.

    Thats "unconstitutional"
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    Re: Arizona sheriff launches immigration sweep

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    Originally Posted by OxymoronP
    Lets call Illegal immigrants what they really are Invaders, they cross the border without our permission and start street gangs that kill Americans. I say any illegals caught on gang related charges should be labelled enemy combatants and sent to Gitmo. Take a guess at how us Native Americans feel about invaders
    Last edited by Uncas; 03-19-10 at 09:00 PM. Reason: trying to get the hang of this
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    Re: Arizona sheriff launches immigration sweep

    Quote Originally Posted by texmaster View Post
    Its pretty obvious the liberals like jallman and Catz Part Deux are using that term with zero knowledge to what it actually means. If they did, they would have quoted the Constitution but they can't.
    The Constitution is a fairly short document that is written in plain, easy to understand English.......

    It amazes me that most people haven't read it, and those that have can so misconstrue what is there.

    Cat, Jall....... take 10 minutes.

    The United States Constitution - The U.S. Constitution Online - USConstitution.net
    There is no such thing as a “Natural Born Dual-Citizen“.

    Originally Posted by PogueMoran
    I didnt have to read the article to tell you that you cant read.

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    Re: Arizona sheriff launches immigration sweep

    Quote Originally Posted by Uncas View Post
    Quote:
    Take a guess at how us Native Americans feel about invaders
    Who cares?

    Like, that was so yesterday.
    There is no such thing as a “Natural Born Dual-Citizen“.

    Originally Posted by PogueMoran
    I didnt have to read the article to tell you that you cant read.

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    Re: Arizona sheriff launches immigration sweep

    Quote Originally Posted by Uncas View Post
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by OxymoronP
    Lets call Illegal immigrants what they really are Invaders, they cross the border without our permission and start street gangs that kill Americans. I say any illegals caught on gang related charges should be labelled enemy combatants and sent to Gitmo. Take a guess at how us Native Americans feel about invaders
    I dont really care how you feel about invaders, since you guys lost. We dont want to replicate the same mistake. Obviously you guys should have butchered every single one of the early settlers, and you could have still been hunting Buffaloe and smoking peace pipes.


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    mad Re: Arizona sheriff launches immigration sweep

    Quote Originally Posted by Crunch View Post
    Who cares?

    Like, that was so yesterday.
    Yet it's still happening today.
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