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    Re: Arizona sheriff launches immigration sweep

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    Why are so many law and order types so quick to ignore the laws that are inconvenient for them?
    Because they are emotional and subjective in their idea of justice. Justice, law, and order are not subjective concepts. In order for them to be effective, in tandem, there has to be total objectivity. But all we hear in this thread is, "Sheriff Joe makes dem crimnuhls wear pink underwear. That's funny right there, yessiree it is. He wun of dem guhd guyz. hyuck hyuck hyuck"

    That's about all their arguments amount to. Nothing objective when looking at the law.

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    Re: Arizona sheriff launches immigration sweep

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    Why are so many law and order types so quick to ignore the laws that are inconvenient for them?
    It seems odd, doesn't it?

    Law and Order type: Illegal immigrants are criminal scum!!!!1111!!! They are BREAKING THE LAW!!!!111111!!!1 Cops should be able to arrest anyone and force them to prove they are citizens. They shouldn't really need probable cause to do it either!

    Rational person: That would be against the law. Do you really want to see cops breaking the law, thus making them criminal scum?

    Law and Order type: Who cares?!?!?!?! The cops do that all the time.

    Rational person: So you're OK with the cops being "criminal scum", but if it's your landscaper, you go ape****?!?!?

    Law and Order type: Cops aren't criminal scum, the illegals are!

    Rational person:
    Tucker Case - Tard magnet.

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    Re: Arizona sheriff launches immigration sweep

    Quote Originally Posted by jallman View Post
    Because they are emotional and subjective in their idea of justice. Justice, law, and order are not subjective concepts. In order for them to be effective, in tandem, there has to be total objectivity. But all we hear in this thread is, "Sheriff Joe makes dem crimnuhls wear pink underwear. That's funny right there, yessiree it is. He wun of dem guhd guyz. hyuck hyuck hyuck"

    That's about all their arguments amount to. Nothing objective when looking at the law.
    What do you expect from some of the people who think Attica was about a bunch of criminals wanting TVs in their rooms?
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    Re: Arizona sheriff launches immigration sweep

    Critics say Arpaio's deputies have racially profiled Hispanics.
    Not quite. Hispanics are an assortment of national groups, not a racial or ethnic group, which is how the whites of Cuba, Argentina, Uruguay, Chile, Puerto Rico, and numerous minorities of other Latin American countries, the blacks of Cuba and the Dominican Republic (and Brazil in both cases, if you want to go there), and the Indians of Peru, Bolivia, Guatemala, and Mexico, etc. are all Hispanic.

    In this case, we know who he's looking at: Indians and Mestizos in the Americas

    Trini's people have been here since before there were six flags flying over Texas. Her grandparents were Cherokee and Mexican Indians who liked to eat on the floor and asked to be buried in a mountain when they died--the Indian way.

    Trini's skin is as brown and red as the earth. She looks like she's always been here. And at age 72, she can't remember a time when her relatives weren't here. Though she was born in these parts, she doesn't speak English well, and cannot read nor write.

    In other words, Trini would be a prime suspect for la migra--border patrol agents who constantly search for "illegal aliens"--even hundreds of miles from any border. If Congress has its way and adopts a national ID card for everyone, it is people like Trini who will be constantly asked to produce it.

    In a great irony of U.S. history, the true natives of this land have become the immigrants. People who can trace their ancestry back the farthest are stopped and questioned because "they look Hispanic"--meaning they look Indian.
    Social class, admixture, and skin color variation in Mexican-Americans and Anglo-Americans living in San Antonio, Texas

    Social class may act in different ways as a barrier to gene flow in urban populations, depending on ethnicity. We test the hypothesis that biological variation is affected by social class subdivision using skin reflectance data collected for 393 Anglo-American and 930 Mexican-American adults in the major urban population of San Antonio, Texas. Two socioeconomic groups were sampled for the Anglo-American population: a middle-income transitional group and a high-income suburban group. In addition, we sampled a third socioeconomic group for Mexican-Americans: a low income barrio. Sex and age effects on skin color are minimal. Social class has no effect on skin color variation for Anglo-Americans, whereas there is a highly significant effect on social class subdivision for Mexican-Americans. Admixture estimates were derived from skin reflectance data and show that the proportion of Native American ancestry decreases as social class increases.
    So Arpaio's storm troopers exhibit the worst elements of statist authoritarianism in a county named after an indigenous nation in a U.S. state with massive indigenous heritage. "Racial profiling" will fail him because the Indians of the Southwestern U.S. bear a resemblance to the Indians/mestizos of Mexico to the shallow eye of the storm trooper...even the scar of matching Spanish names thanks to their influence, creating a sort of European-imposed homogeneity that did not previously exist.

    There's nothing more insulting than an audacious pup who's been here a shorter time than the Mayflower, who's a descendant of an ethnic group (Italians) themselves reviled as racially inferior "non-whites" less than a century ago (remember Sacco and Vanzetti?), presuming to tell the sons and daughters of Arizona to "go back to Mexico."

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    Re: Arizona sheriff launches immigration sweep

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    What do you expect from some of the people who think Attica was about a bunch of criminals wanting TVs in their rooms?
    Seriously? Who is ignorant enough to think that?

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    Re: Arizona sheriff launches immigration sweep

    Quote Originally Posted by jallman View Post
    Seriously? Who is ignorant enough to think that?
    Do we really have to ask?

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    Re: Arizona sheriff launches immigration sweep

    Quote Originally Posted by Catz Part Deux View Post
    Do we really have to ask?
    Oh no no no...there's so many at this point, I want to know which one specifically...

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    Re: Arizona sheriff launches immigration sweep

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    Why are so many law and order types so quick to ignore the laws that are inconvenient for them?
    It's all about prioritization. The (social, not necessarily economic) conservative views illegal immigrants as the neighbor's children who presume to come into our house and steal our food and property. This is outrageous, as we may have an obligation to care for our own children, but not those of our neighbors. And while we may honor certain procedural guidelines when disciplining our own children, since our neighbor's children are not supposed to be in our house without permission to begin with, kicking them out is the most imperative task at hand, other minor considerations aside.

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    Re: Arizona sheriff launches immigration sweep

    Quote Originally Posted by Partisan View Post
    ....You still don't get it...
    You see Partisan, Liberals never do, regardless of whether they hide behind the lable of moderate, independant or centrist.

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    Re: Arizona sheriff launches immigration sweep

    If they can set up road blocks for DUI checks (although they call them safety checks)..... then they should set up road blocks the illegals (ie theives)
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    DESTROYING THE BEST OF AMERICA ONE DAY AT A TIME

    This is the worst kind of discrimination. The kind against ME! ~ Bender

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