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    Re: Arizona sheriff launches immigration sweep

    Quote Originally Posted by Crunch View Post
    I have........ got stopped for not signaling in time and I had forgotten to take my wallet with me. It happens all of the time, that's why they have that law on the books in every State.
    No they do not. If you get stopped without ID on you, the most that's going to happen is they will ask for your name and DOB, state your ID was issued, and maybe your social...then they will call it in and let you go when it comes back cleared.

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    Re: Arizona sheriff launches immigration sweep

    Quote Originally Posted by Catz Part Deux View Post
    That's because you aren't allowed TO DRIVE without a driver's license and proof of insurance.

    But that's not what we're talking about here. We're talking about the police WALKING UP TO A PERSON ON THE STREET AND DEMANDING TO SEE IDENTIFICATION THAT PROVES THAT THEY ARE A U.S. CITIZEN. That's a violation of the 4th Amendment.

    Cheese and rice.
    So they could have written me a ticket (they did when they released me) and sent me on my way (they held for 18 hours until the prints came back and no wants or warrants were found).

    Give it up, Joe isn't doing anything illegal or immoral, he just pisses you off because he is cleaning up what the politicians don't have the guts to fix.
    There is no such thing as a “Natural Born Dual-Citizen“.

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    I didnt have to read the article to tell you that you cant read.

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    Re: Arizona sheriff launches immigration sweep

    Quote Originally Posted by Catz Part Deux View Post
    I'm suggesting that law enforcement officers have a primary responsibility to FOLLOW THE LAW, including upholding the bill of rights. Every police protocol in every department I've ever worked with/for has been focused around that goal. Jesus Christ, do you want to live in a country where police routinely violate the protections of the bill of rights? Holy ****.

    This conversation is ****ing blowing my mind. An alleged conservative wishes to abdicate the fundamental protections of the bill of rights, and is encouraging a police department that is doing this? CRAZY ****.
    Wake up, you already do...
    Subject to the disgression of your local LEO......

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    Re: Arizona sheriff launches immigration sweep

    Quote Originally Posted by Crunch View Post
    So they could have written me a ticket (they did when they released me) and sent me on my way (they held for 18 hours until the prints came back and no wants or warrants were found).

    Give it up, Joe isn't doing anything illegal or immoral, he just pisses you off because he is cleaning up what the politicians don't have the guts to fix.
    They could have, it's largely officer discretion. In most jurisdictions, an officer is not going to hold you for driving without a license. I suspect you were doing more than that. If not, you have reasonable cause to speak to an attorney as that was an inappropriate response by the officer involved.

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    Re: Arizona sheriff launches immigration sweep

    Quote Originally Posted by jallman View Post
    No they do not. If you get stopped without ID on you, the most that's going to happen is they will ask for your name and DOB, state your ID was issued, and maybe your social...then they will call it in and let you go when it comes back cleared.
    What happens when that info doesn't check out?....

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    Re: Arizona sheriff launches immigration sweep

    Quote Originally Posted by Partisan View Post
    Wake up, you already do...
    Subject to the disgression of your local LEO......
    And you approve of fundamental violations of the bill of rights by local law enforcement? I call bull****.

    Or is it that you don't care, because the people involved are brown?

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    Re: Arizona sheriff launches immigration sweep

    Quote Originally Posted by Crunch View Post
    Give it up, Joe isn't doing anything illegal or immoral, he just pisses you off because he is cleaning up what the politicians don't have the guts to fix.
    Uh, Joe is a politician. Sheriff in Maricopa county is an elected official.

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    Re: Arizona sheriff launches immigration sweep

    Quote Originally Posted by Partisan View Post
    What happens when that info doesn't check out?....
    I don't know. My info has always checked out. If your info doesn't check out, I imagine there are bigger issues than you not having your physical ID on you.

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    Re: Arizona sheriff launches immigration sweep

    Quote Originally Posted by Partisan View Post
    What happens when that info doesn't check out?....
    Generally speaking, if it is only driving without a license, you'll be cited and released. They may impound your vehicle and require someone to come and get you because you are driving illegally. But you typically are not going to be thrown in a jail cell because you can't cough up government I.D. THAT IS NOT A CRIME IN AND OF ITSELF.

    And you can't even be asked for ID unless you're suspected of being involved in some kind of illegal act.

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    Re: Arizona sheriff launches immigration sweep

    Quote Originally Posted by Catz Part Deux View Post
    And you approve of fundamental violations of the bill of rights by local law enforcement? I call bull****.

    Or is it that you don't care, because the people involved are brown?
    You're the one who keeps bringing up 'brown', in a lame attempt to elicit a 'hate' response....
    They could be Russians for all I care......

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