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    Re: Arizona sheriff launches immigration sweep

    Quote Originally Posted by Partisan View Post
    Catz, quote all of the amendments you want, but it is the law ....
    You can be held for seventy two hours without being charged.....
    Not without presumption of guilt. Jesus Christ, you people literally have no idea what your rights are.

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    Re: Arizona sheriff launches immigration sweep

    Quote Originally Posted by Partisan View Post
    Catz, quote all of the amendments you want, but it is the law ....
    You can be held for seventy two hours without being charged.....
    But if it is shown that you were held without cause, it is against the law.
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    Re: Arizona sheriff launches immigration sweep

    Quote Originally Posted by Catz Part Deux View Post
    That's because you aren't allowed TO DRIVE without a driver's license and proof of insurance.

    But that's not what we're talking about here. We're talking about the police WALKING UP TO A PERSON ON THE STREET AND DEMANDING TO SEE IDENTIFICATION THAT PROVES THAT THEY ARE A U.S. CITIZEN. That's a violation of the 4th Amendment.

    Cheese and rice.
    You still don't get it...
    They can make it up as they go.....
    Public inebriation, whatever.....

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    Re: Arizona sheriff launches immigration sweep

    Quote Originally Posted by Tucker Case View Post
    But if it is shown that you were held without cause, it is against the law.
    Please, 'charges not filed pending investigation'.....
    I'm not denying they could be fishing, but ......

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    Re: Arizona sheriff launches immigration sweep

    Quote Originally Posted by Catz Part Deux View Post
    On what charges? So now, you're not only advocating that we overturn the presumption of innocence, but that people be held without charges?

    Let's just scrap the 4th, 5th, and 6th Amendments. Well done, Gentlemen.

    it's a good thing we took civics out of the school system. The result is Crunch + Partisan.
    You are being intentionally obtuse because you have lost this debate.

    If you don't have ID to prove who you are when an officer of the court asks for it they can hold for 72 hours, with no charges, in any State in this country while they find out who you are.

    If they didn't have this law, all wanted criminals wouldn't carry ID and would always go free... this is reality, deal with it.

    On another subject..... I could have sworn Tucker said to knock off the personal attacks..... did you miss that?
    There is no such thing as a “Natural Born Dual-Citizen“.

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    I didnt have to read the article to tell you that you cant read.

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    Re: Arizona sheriff launches immigration sweep

    Quote Originally Posted by Partisan View Post
    You still don't get it...
    They can make it up as they go.....
    Public inebriation, whatever.....
    And you have a right to legal counsel, to see the evidence presented against you, and to file civil litigation of the department violates your rights. A charge of public inebriation is meaningless without a breathalyzer. How exactly does one falsify a breathalyzer report?

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    Re: Arizona sheriff launches immigration sweep

    Quote Originally Posted by Partisan View Post
    Please, 'charges not filed pending investigation'.....
    Please, investigation of what?
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    Re: Arizona sheriff launches immigration sweep

    Quote Originally Posted by Crunch View Post
    You are being intentionally obtuse because you have lost this debate.
    I'm suggesting that law enforcement officers have a primary responsibility to FOLLOW THE LAW, including upholding the bill of rights. Every police protocol in every department I've ever worked with/for has been focused around that goal. Jesus Christ, do you want to live in a country where police routinely violate the protections of the bill of rights? Holy ****.

    This conversation is ****ing blowing my mind. An alleged conservative wishes to abdicate the fundamental protections of the bill of rights, and is encouraging a police department that is doing this? CRAZY ****.
    Last edited by Catz Part Deux; 03-23-10 at 03:36 PM.

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    Re: Arizona sheriff launches immigration sweep

    Quote Originally Posted by Crunch View Post
    On another subject..... I could have sworn Tucker said to knock off the personal attacks..... did you miss that?
    Feel free to report the post that you believe attacked you.

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    Re: Arizona sheriff launches immigration sweep

    Quote Originally Posted by Tucker Case View Post
    Please, investigation of what?
    How about vagrantcy?......
    What I'm saying is that all they need is probable cause for initial contact.....
    Whatever happens after that is anyone's call.....
    If you have no ID, they can hold you & run your prints through the system....

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