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    Re: Arizona sheriff launches immigration sweep

    Quote Originally Posted by Crunch View Post
    California built a Max security prison a few years ago called Pelican Bay. Before it opened they gave tours for the local people so we would all know how secure it was, and it is...... they have never had an escape from the enclosed population.

    However, they also had a TV in every cell except the "shoe" w/cable, a rec room with big screen TV's W/ cable and VCR., a Baseball diamond, a regulation outdoor Basketball court, a regulation indoor Basketball court, indoor and outdoor free weights, an excellently stocked "store" where you could buy almost anything you could "outside", and tennis courts.... 12 of them.

    Sounds like a real hardship to me.
    I have a good friend who played tennis on their court. He's a sitting judge in Utah. I don't think you've ever been inside a maximum security prison, or you would be singing a different tune.

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    Re: Arizona sheriff launches immigration sweep

    Quote Originally Posted by Catz Part Deux View Post
    Yeah, okay. I have a problem with officers stopping someone for being brown and asking them to prove their citizenship. That's illegal.
    Don't have to ask them to prove citizenship, just ask for ID.... if they don't have it hold for 72 until the finger print check comes back. same as they do for us white folks.
    There is no such thing as a “Natural Born Dual-Citizen“.

    Originally Posted by PogueMoran
    I didnt have to read the article to tell you that you cant read.

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    Re: Arizona sheriff launches immigration sweep

    Quote Originally Posted by Catz Part Deux View Post
    I have a good friend who played tennis on their court. He's a sitting judge in Utah. I don't think you've ever been inside a maximum security prison, or you would be singing a different tune.
    I toured it.... not a bad life if you can keep from getting killed by the gangs inside, but that's not the point that Boomer was making is it?
    There is no such thing as a “Natural Born Dual-Citizen“.

    Originally Posted by PogueMoran
    I didnt have to read the article to tell you that you cant read.

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    Re: Arizona sheriff launches immigration sweep

    Quote Originally Posted by Crunch View Post
    Don't have to ask them to prove citizenship, just ask for ID.... if they don't have it hold for 72 until the finger print check comes back. same as they do for us white folks.
    I've never been held for 72 hours for not having ID on me.
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    Re: Arizona sheriff launches immigration sweep

    Quote Originally Posted by Tucker Case View Post
    I've never been held for 72 hours for not having ID on me.
    Maybe not, but they can......

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    Re: Arizona sheriff launches immigration sweep

    Quote Originally Posted by Crunch View Post
    Don't have to ask them to prove citizenship, just ask for ID.... if they don't have it hold for 72 until the finger print check comes back. same as they do for us white folks.
    On what charges? So now, you're not only advocating that we overturn the presumption of innocence, but that people be held without charges?

    Let's just scrap the 4th, 5th, and 6th Amendments. Well done, Gentlemen.


    Fourth Amendment – Protection from unreasonable search and seizure.
    The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.

    Fifth Amendment – due process, double jeopardy, self-incrimination, eminent domain.
    No person shall be held to answer for any capital, or otherwise infamous crime, unless on a presentment or indictment of a Grand Jury, except in cases arising in the land or naval forces, or in the Militia, when in actual service in time of War or public danger; nor shall any person be subject for the same offence to be twice put in jeopardy of life or limb; nor shall be compelled in any criminal case to be a witness against himself, nor be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor shall private property be taken for public use, without just compensation.

    Sixth Amendment – Trial by jury and rights of the accused; Confrontation Clause, speedy trial, public trial, right to counsel
    In all criminal prosecutions, the accused shall enjoy the right to a speedy and public trial, by an impartial jury of the State and district where in the crime shall have been committed, which district shall have been previously ascertained by law, and to be informed of the nature and cause of the accusation; to be confronted with the witnesses against him; to have compulsory process for obtaining witnesses in his favor, and to have the Assistance of Counsel for his defense.
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    Re: Arizona sheriff launches immigration sweep

    Quote Originally Posted by Tucker Case View Post
    I've never been held for 72 hours for not having ID on me.
    I have........ got stopped for not signaling in time and I had forgotten to take my wallet with me. It happens all of the time, that's why they have that law on the books in every State.
    There is no such thing as a “Natural Born Dual-Citizen“.

    Originally Posted by PogueMoran
    I didnt have to read the article to tell you that you cant read.

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    Re: Arizona sheriff launches immigration sweep

    Quote Originally Posted by Crunch View Post
    I have........ got stopped for not signaling in time and I had forgotten to take my wallet with me. It happens all of the time, that's why they have that law on the books in every State.
    That's because you aren't allowed TO DRIVE without a driver's license and proof of insurance.

    But that's not what we're talking about here. We're talking about the police WALKING UP TO A PERSON ON THE STREET AND DEMANDING TO SEE IDENTIFICATION THAT PROVES THAT THEY ARE A U.S. CITIZEN. That's a violation of the 4th Amendment.

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    Re: Arizona sheriff launches immigration sweep

    Quote Originally Posted by Catz Part Deux View Post
    On what charges? So now, you're not only advocating that we overturn the presumption of innocence, but that people be held without charges?

    Let's just scrap the 4th, 5th, and 6th Amendments. Well done, Gentlemen.

    it's a good thing we took civics out of the school system. The result is Crunch + Partisan.
    Catz, quote all of the amendments you want, but it is the law ....
    You can be held for seventy two hours without being charged.....

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    Re: Arizona sheriff launches immigration sweep

    Quote Originally Posted by Crunch View Post
    I have........ got stopped for not signaling in time and I had forgotten to take my wallet with me. It happens all of the time, that's why they have that law on the books in every State.
    That's because you were breaking a law at the time, not because you didn't have ID.
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