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    Re: Arizona sheriff launches immigration sweep

    Quote Originally Posted by rathi View Post
    Why don't you cite all these "futile attempts to prosecute" the Sheriff? As far as I know, this is the first time he has been formally investigated by the federal government in criminal cases. Furthermore, he certainly has lost numerous civil cases and cost the county quite a bit of money through his actions. He also was just sanctioned by a judge for destroying evidence in relation to one of his sweeps.
    Oh well let's not let facts get in the way of a "Go Joe!" circle jerk. How dare you undermine their little hero? Who's gonna "get dem damned spics that tookourjobs if you discredit Sheriff Joe?


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    Re: Arizona sheriff launches immigration sweep

    Quote Originally Posted by jallman View Post
    Oh well let's not let facts get in the way of a "Go Joe!" circle jerk. How dare you undermine their little hero? Who's gonna "get dem damned spics that tookourjobs if you discredit Sheriff Joe?

    Another vote against upholding the law, what a shock!.........

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    Re: Arizona sheriff launches immigration sweep

    Quote Originally Posted by Councilman View Post
    There are crime sweeps with varying degrees of success held in Cities across the Nation they would be needed less if Cities like San Diego, Los Angeles, and San Francisco were not run and controlled by City Councils and Mayors who violate the law and their oath of office by presiding over sanctuary Cities that serve no good purpose and only invite crime.
    Generally speaking, crime sweeps are the least effective form of enforcement that require the most man-hours of police time. They alienate the local community upon whose goodwill the officers depend. They increase the likelihood that innocent people will be swept up and mistreated.

    I'm a pro law & order girl, but some police strategies work better than others. What works the best is to focus your time, energy, and resources on the individuals who are most likely to commit crimes in the area. Only a small percentage of residents in a local area are likely to commit serious crimes. Sweeps disburse resources that could be targeted in on violent offenders.

    One of the ways you can measure the effectiveness of a particular police department is through cleared case rates. Arpaio has one of the lowest clearance rates in the U.S. What that means is that the people who have actually committed car thefts, burglaries, and the like, and who often specialize in those kinds of crimes, are getting away with their misdeeds. I'd far rather live in a city with solid crime clearance rates and zero sweeps. The crime rate will be lower.

    Building solid investigative cases against criminals, and sending them to prison for appropriate lengths of confinement is actually the best use of officer man-hours, in my experience.

    The Mexican Drug Cartels have partnered up with local gangs and even national gangs and threaten the peace not only alone the Border but in every town in America, and the attitude that illegals are just here to work and make a better life is one really stupid ignorant thing to say.
    IN my experience, there are two groups of illegal immigrants: those who are here to work, and those who are here to commit crimes. Those who are here to commit crimes should be arrested and incarcerated. Those who are here to work should be deported.

    We are Nation of laws and those like Janet Napolitano and Obama and others who don't want the laws enforced because they claim some BS about tolerance are part of the problem and are in violation of their oath of office.
    In his zeal to do their jobs, Joe Arpaio is abdicating his elected responsibilities.

    Here's a rule of thumb I've always found handy when it comes to these sorts of things....make sure your own house is clean before you start worrying about the dust under someone else's bed. In Joe Arpaio's case, his own house is damned dirty.
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    Re: Arizona sheriff launches immigration sweep

    Quote Originally Posted by Kali View Post
    He need to wear pink PJ's and have a Teddy Bear gun holster. The man is a nutcase.
    I think the only nutcases are the ones that take every opportunity to castigate those who are legally effective in carrying out the law and maintaining criminals in proper perspective.

    It is people with this attitude that have allowed incarcerated criminals a life of luxury at their victims expense.

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    Re: Arizona sheriff launches immigration sweep

    Quote Originally Posted by Boomyal View Post
    Incarcerated criminals a life of luxury at their victims expense.
    I take it from this statement that you haven't spent much time in jail/prison. If you had, you'd realize how ridiculous it is.

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    Re: Arizona sheriff launches immigration sweep

    Quote Originally Posted by Partisan View Post
    Another vote against upholding the law, what a shock!.........
    No, what's shocking is your inability to comprehend the points being made here and your penchant for attributing false arguments to others.

    Actually, no...it's not shocking at all.

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    Re: Arizona sheriff launches immigration sweep

    No doubt Sheriff Joes does what he does because the state and federal govts won't do their jobs.
    "He who does not think himself worth saving from poverty and ignorance by his own efforts, will hardly be thought worth the efforts of anybody else." -- Frederick Douglass, Self-Made Men (1872)
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    Re: Arizona sheriff launches immigration sweep

    Quote Originally Posted by jallman View Post
    No, what's shocking is your inability to comprehend the points being made here and your penchant for attributing false arguments to others.

    Actually, no...it's not shocking at all.
    I comprende just fine, I just disagree with said points......
    I do not subscribe to the notion that a particular method of apprehending criminals be thrown away because it is deemed cost ineffective by a bunch of bleeding heart liberals......
    Once again, 5 pounds of meth & 50+ illegals in the slammer, is worth every penny......
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    They alienate the local community upon whose goodwill the officers depend. They increase the likelihood that innocent people will be swept up and mistreated.
    I say hogwash.....
    The local community should be pleased that this scum was locked up, regardless of the method employed......

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    Re: Arizona sheriff launches immigration sweep

    Quote Originally Posted by Partisan View Post
    ....The local community should be pleased that this scum was locked up, regardless of the method employed......
    ...and they are. That's why ol' Joe was reelected by a double digit margin, in 2008.

    The only dissenters are Liberals and the 'independants' and centrists who are for the most part, liberals in denial!

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    Re: Arizona sheriff launches immigration sweep

    Quote Originally Posted by Boomyal View Post
    ...and they are. That's why ol' Joe was reelected by a double digit margin, in 2008.
    The only dissenters are Liberals and the 'independants' and centrists who are for the most part, liberals in denial!
    Funny how the Libs can't seem to explain that little tid bit away.....

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