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    Re: Dutch fury at US general's gay theory over Srebrenica

    Quote Originally Posted by texmaster View Post
    Perhaps he did not have the consent of the other soldiers to subject them to the fury of the press on this issue.
    I would say the fact that he could not support his accusations with a thread of evidence, that he could only name one deposed leader who shared his opinion, and that he recanted what he said by clarifying that he meant the liberalization of the forces into a peace keeping force, is a strong indication that he made an error in judgment while speaking.

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    Re: Dutch fury at US general's gay theory over Srebrenica

    Quote Originally Posted by CriticalThought View Post
    I would say the fact that he could not support his accusations with a thread of evidence, that he could only name one deposed leader who shared his opinion, and that he recanted what he said by clarifying that he meant the liberalization of the forces into a peace keeping force, is a strong indication that he made an error in judgment while speaking.
    Liberalization isn't even mentioned in the article and where did he "recant"?

    You realize the source he used was the chief of staff of the Dutch Army correct?
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    Re: Dutch fury at US general's gay theory over Srebrenica

    Quote Originally Posted by Jetboogieman View Post
    Or maybe... he's wrong and there's nothing wrong with gay people. I know some gay guys who are some truly tough mofo's.

    Being gay does not mean that you are weak, or scared of combat. That is a negative Xenophobic view.
    Exactly. Just as being straight does not automatically confer heroic status on a man.

    What a black eye the general gives our country and our military.

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    Re: Dutch fury at US general's gay theory over Srebrenica

    Quote Originally Posted by Gina View Post
    Exactly. Just as being straight does not automatically confer heroic status on a man.

    What a black eye the general gives our country and our military.
    Why?....
    He was talking about the Dutch ...

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    Re: Dutch fury at US general's gay theory over Srebrenica

    Quote Originally Posted by texmaster View Post
    Liberalization isn't even mentioned in the article and where did he "recant"?

    You realize the source he used was the chief of staff of the Dutch Army correct?
    He didn't & the only reason he was able to speak up is because he didn't have to fear losing his job over some PC crapola....

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    Re: Dutch fury at US general's gay theory over Srebrenica

    Quote Originally Posted by Partisan View Post
    He didn't & the only reason he was able to speak up is because he didn't have to fear losing his job over some PC crapola....
    Completely agree. There is no way he could be that honest and still serve. Its a sad chapter in quashing free speech.
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    Re: Dutch fury at US general's gay theory over Srebrenica

    Quote Originally Posted by Partisan View Post
    Why?....
    He was talking about the Dutch ...
    He insulted an ally. The Dutch are infuriated at his comments. The general makes us look a nation of homophobes.

    Dutch outrage as US general blames gay soldiers for Srebrenica - Times Online

    Renée Jones-Bos, the Dutch Ambassador to the United States, said that she "couldn’t disagree more” with General Sheehan, adding there was no evidence of his claims in the extensive record of research on Srebrenica.

    Roger Van de Wetering, from the Dutch Defence Ministry added: “For us it is unbelievable that a man of this rank is stating this nonsense, because that is what it is.

    “The whole operation in Srebrenica and the drama that took place over there was thoroughly investigated by Dutch and international authorities and none of these investigations has ever concluded or suggested a link between homosexual military personnel and the things that happened over there. I do not know on what facts this is based, but for us it is total nonsense.

    "Every man or woman that meets the criteria physically and mentally is welcome to serve in our Armed Forces regardless of (religious) belief, sexual preference or whatever.”

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    Re: Dutch fury at US general's gay theory over Srebrenica

    Quote Originally Posted by texmaster View Post
    Liberalization isn't even mentioned in the article and where did he "recant"?

    You realize the source he used was the chief of staff of the Dutch Army correct?
    That is probably why you should learn to look up more than one article tex.

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    Re: Dutch fury at US general's gay theory over Srebrenica

    Quote Originally Posted by CriticalThought View Post
    That is probably why you should learn to look up more than one article tex.
    Then enlighten us all CT.

    You make these claims without producing evidence then expect everyone to just accept it on your word alone?

    Please, provide direct quotes and links.
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    Re: Dutch fury at US general's gay theory over Srebrenica

    Quote Originally Posted by Gina View Post
    He insulted an ally. The Dutch are infuriated at his comments. The general makes us look a nation of homophobes.

    Dutch outrage as US general blames gay soldiers for Srebrenica - Times Online

    Renée Jones-Bos, the Dutch Ambassador to the United States, said that she "couldn’t disagree more” with General Sheehan, adding there was no evidence of his claims in the extensive record of research on Srebrenica.

    Roger Van de Wetering, from the Dutch Defence Ministry added: “For us it is unbelievable that a man of this rank is stating this nonsense, because that is what it is.

    “The whole operation in Srebrenica and the drama that took place over there was thoroughly investigated by Dutch and international authorities and none of these investigations has ever concluded or suggested a link between homosexual military personnel and the things that happened over there. I do not know on what facts this is based, but for us it is total nonsense.

    "Every man or woman that meets the criteria physically and mentally is welcome to serve in our Armed Forces regardless of (religious) belief, sexual preference or whatever.”
    Do you understand he was repeated what the source, a Dutchman said? Why are you mad at him when it was a Dutch source?
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