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    Re: Idaho first to sign law aimed at health care plan

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    Lol. You do know the military is one big socialist program right?
    When did you serve?
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    Re: Idaho first to sign law aimed at health care plan

    Quote Originally Posted by hazlnut View Post
    I guess Navy is still not reading his own articles.............



    Way to go, political posturing with a symbolic and legally unfounded action.........

    And Way Go Navy Pride.........


    I read that my left wing friend.............we shall see when 37 states revolt against Obama's forced social health care..

    When are you lefties going to realize the American people don't want this
    "God Bless Our Troops in Harms Way."

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    Re: Idaho first to sign law aimed at health care plan

    Quote Originally Posted by hazlnut View Post
    Sure, you say that now.

    But when the socialized mail delivers your copy of Men's Health and your socialized veteran's benefits check......

    And when the socialized police patrol your city.........or the socialized paramedics save your life...........

    And when you drive on the socialized roads...........to your socialized public school......or the socialized rest stop near the socialize state park.......where you meet friends for social interaction around the the camp fire.......

    .......and should your fire get out of control..... guess what? Those socialized firefighters will show up......
    Oh yes Mr. V, looky looky, according to hazelnut you are driving on "socialized" roads! Your children, they attend a "socialized" school! You might take your children to one of those oh so underfunded and understaffed "socialized" Texas state parks! You get your mail from the "socialized" post office, which might just have to cut back on how many days a week they deliver! You are accepting "socialized" Vet benefits! Why if you ever attened a "social interaction" you are in fact a socialist!

    You ever get the idea this hazelnut is about as attached to rational thoughtful discourse as is the average blog rant at Huffington Post?
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    Re: Idaho first to sign law aimed at health care plan

    Quote Originally Posted by hazlnut View Post
    Sure, you say that now.

    But when the socialized mail delivers your copy of Men's Health and your socialized veteran's benefits check......

    And when the socialized police patrol your city.........or the socialized paramedics save your life...........

    And when you drive on the socialized roads...........to your socialized public school......or the socialized rest stop near the socialize state park.......where you meet friends for social interaction around the the camp fire.......

    .......and should your fire get out of control..... guess what? Those socialized firefighters will show up......
    When your federal government is paying 70% of the GDP on debt payments alone...honest to God...you think any of this is going to matter?

    The nice thing about those schools, police departments, fire departments...they are STATE and CITY run programs and by and large, run pretty efficiently. Now...socialist strates lioke California ARE trying to give the fed a run for their money in the bankrupt debt department...but...sooner or later...the rent comes due baby...

    When OUR federal government has saddled us with a to-date 13.5 trillion dollar debt and just upped the limit to 15 trillion...because guess what...they already KNOW they are going to end up there...and when they demonstrate they cant manage Medicare without incurring 80 billion a year in fraudulent chrages...what makes you or anyone think the fed is going to be able to handle health care?

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    Re: Idaho first to sign law aimed at health care plan

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    I read that my left wing friend.............we shall see when 37 states revolt against Obama's forced social health care..

    When are you lefties going to realize the American people don't want this
    37 states...another 20 and they ALL will have taken a stand against Obama. Its a shame after he went through the trouble to visit them all...

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    Re: Idaho first to sign law aimed at health care plan

    There are some really good arguments against the federal health care plan, but I don't see them in this thread. "Socialism ZOMMGGGG" is not logical and just makes your side look bad.

    I really enjoy reading posts from opponents to the plan who know what they're talking about.

    And just because Idaho will sue the Fed, it doesn't mean they'll actually succeed.

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    Re: Idaho first to sign law aimed at health care plan

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    37 states...another 20 and they ALL will have taken a stand against Obama. Its a shame after he went through the trouble to visit them all...
    I love it...............
    "God Bless Our Troops in Harms Way."

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    Re: Idaho first to sign law aimed at health care plan

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    Interesting...How so?
    Well, Vance, let us look at the definition of 'socialism' shall we?

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    Definitions of socialism on the Web:

    1.a political theory advocating state ownership of industry
    2. an economic system based on state ownership of capital
    Who would you say "owns" the military? Who controls the means of production? The answer to both these questions is the same (if you read Marx, it starts with a "P").

    Would you disagree when I say that the military is almost entirely government run? The military is a publicly owned industry operated by the people. It provides those who work for it with benefits like housing, medicine and food on top of the salary they already get. You could even go to school almost free of charge when you're in the military. You know where you can go to university and pay almost no money? Cuba, Venezuela, Sweden. All countries that get regularly blasted for socialist systems that provide the same exact benefits to all their residents.

    Not only that but their entire recruitment campaigns are based on the very notion of working for a community. Army of One. If Obama's campaign went around saying 'A Country of One', we'd never hear the end of how it sounds like something straight out of the former USSR.

    If the government did any of these things outside of the military, we'd see people go out in the streets protesting the socialism of it all.

    Yet somehow, the socialism of the U.S. military is appealing. People every day join it so that they can get benefits in exchange for working for the government. I don't blame them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MrVicchio View Post
    You do know you make absolutely no sense right?

    It's the MILITARY. Something you've never understood.
    I do not expect a right winger to actually know the meaning of socialism. So please, don't think I'm shocked that you think I make no sense when I say that the military is a socialist program. I'm glad to see you think the troops are inherently immoral and evil too.
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    Re: Idaho first to sign law aimed at health care plan

    Quote Originally Posted by hazlnut View Post
    Sure, you say that now.

    But when the socialized mail delivers your copy of Men's Health and your socialized veteran's benefits check......

    And when the socialized police patrol your city.........or the socialized paramedics save your life...........

    And when you drive on the socialized roads...........to your socialized public school......or the socialized rest stop near the socialize state park.......where you meet friends for social interaction around the the camp fire.......

    .......and should your fire get out of control..... guess what? Those socialized firefighters will show up......
    This is where the term Socialism and Hazlnut diverge with reality.

    Next, we'll move onto Hazlnut's theory that the 3/5's Compromise was Racist.
    Climate, changes. It takes a particularly uneducated population to buy into the idea that it's their fault climate is changing and further political solutions can fix it.



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    Re: Idaho first to sign law aimed at health care plan

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    When did you serve?
    Navy, tell us all about how you ran the ship when you were a clerk. - Just so I can get UtahBill to put you in your place again.
    I refuse to accept the view that mankind is so tragically bound to the starless midnight of racism and war that the bright daybreak of peace and brotherhood can never become a reality. - MLK

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