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"All Black People" Asked to Leave S. Jersey Wal-Mart

jallman said:
Here's where we differ on this: whereas you continue to look at yourself as being the object of the joke, my immediate response would have been to look at the "prankster" as being the butt of a bad joke. He made himself a bad joke by doing something so ridiculously offensive.
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I don't care about the prankster, I care that people somehow think this was a laugh riot. I think about what if one of my family members were in the store, funny as hell, right?

What he did was beyond tasteless, it was pretty loathsome.

I guess you just had to grow up in it, to understand it.

"People keep on saying this as if those of us who didn't faint from the horror of such an incident are only acting so callously because it wasn't us being spoken about."

I am certainly not saying this. I am saying to those who think it was funny, and said to those offended they need to "get over it" or are to "tightly wound" need to realize why this is unacceptable.
 
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Blackdog said:
I am certainly not saying this. I am saying to those who think it was funny, and said to those offended they need to "get over it" or are to "tightly wound" need to realize why this is unacceptable.
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And my thing, BD, is that it was so absurdly unacceptable that the only appropriate response was to laugh AT the idiot, not WITH the idiot.
 
Blackdog said:
I don't care about the prankster, I care that people somehow think this was a laugh riot. I think about what if one of my family members were in the store, funny as hell, right?

What he did was beyond tasteless, it was pretty loathsome.

I guess you just had to grow up in it, to understand it.
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Ive never had leprosy, but I get that it sucks...

Point is I dont think you have to have experienced racism to understand it. At some time we ALL have experienced SOME form of discrimination.

Im trying to relate the maker of the comment to people that I personally know that would make such a comment. I can. I can even see them thinking it was funny and being absolutely shocked if someone accused them of being racist. Jerry IS right...this isnt an incident worthy of hysteria...and people are already talking about arrests and prosecutions and lawsuits. Certainly we can differ in opinions about whether or not it was funny (it wasnt...everyone else is WRONG...because I SAY SO!). ;)

There was a recent thread about the use of the infamous 'n' word. I find it a LITTLE ironic that people that are SO upset that they are talking LAWSUITS against WalMart (look at some of the videos) are likely to defend the use of the word nigger even in a derogitory manner when it comes from the mouths of black people. Maybe THATS why there is so much division on this...because the messages are so consistently inconsistent.
 
When I worked at LL Bean, someone found an ugly green hat and brought it up to the register. I announced on the PA that a green hat had been found in the women's dept and the owner could pick it up there.

5 minutes later, I brought it downstairs to the men's dept and told them I found a hat in their dept. The clerk got on the intercom and announced that a green hat had been found in the men's dept and the owner cold pick it up there.

5 minutes later, I went back to the men's dept and said I know where the hat belongs and took it over to the camping dept. I told the girl at the register that I found this green hat in her dept. She announced that a green hat .... blah blah blah.

I did this all morning until people were groaning everytime they heard the loudspeaker come on. My friend and I neearly pissed our pants laughing over this stupid green hat. I imagine the dork who lost the hat was probably pretty pissed off going around LL Bean from dept to dept looking for his hat.

It was just stupid enough to be funny. :shrug:

The absurdity of the black people thing made me laugh when I read it, but as I said upthread, I'd have just stood there with my mouth open were I in the store at the time. I'd probably have looked around to see what other reactions were to guage whether or not it was serious. However, if someone had said "all soccer moms must leave the store," I'd have cracked up laughing.

Blackdog, I'm sorry this brings up difficult memories for you.
 
Blackdog said:
I don't care about the prankster, I care that people somehow think this was a laugh riot. I think about what if one of my family members were in the store, funny as hell, right?

What he did was beyond tasteless, it was pretty loathsome.

I guess you just had to grow up in it, to understand it.

"People keep on saying this as if those of us who didn't faint from the horror of such an incident are only acting so callously because it wasn't us being spoken about."

I am certainly not saying this. I am saying to those who think it was funny, and said to those offended they need to "get over it" or are to "tightly wound" need to realize why this is unacceptable.
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Now...heres the scary part...what happens if this turns out to be a black person that said it (like the noose incident in San Diego less than a month ago). It will be very interesting to see! maybe once the individual is caught we will know more if this was an outright racist comment, a kid trying to be funny, or whatever!
 
Objective Voice said:
Well, all I can say is it was a prank that obviously wasn't appreciated by some people, specifically blacks/African Americans like myself. As a man, I was surprised to read such racist foolishness, but as a Black man I'm offended; even moreso by the response by many here who honestly think something like this was funny.

What I'd like to know is how are those who took offense to this racist act the punch line? I mean, if the situation was reversed I think most white people would take offense as well. So, how is it that those who are now boycotting suddenly the people in the wrong here? Granted, as I understand the situation it wasn't Walmart's fault, but the incident happened in one of their stores so they have to take responsibility for it, right or wrong. Regardless, how are those who are boycotting that or any other Walmart store now in the wrong for showing their displeasure for standig up against a racist act?

Overkill? Maybe...but that still doesn't place the victims of racism in the wrong.
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So people boycotting a store that was in now way responsible for what happened is somehow okay? I'm sorry, but that's ridiculous, except to those that live in perpetual victimhood, I guess. If these people really wish to express their offendedness over this stupid joke, let them boycott the house of the moron that did it. Otherwise, the boycotters just look like crybabies and more than a little foolish.
 
jallman said:
And my thing, BD, is that it was so absurdly unacceptable that the only appropriate response was to laugh AT the idiot, not WITH the idiot.
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Laughing at the absurdity is one thing, but you know as well as I do not everyone was laughing at that.
 
VanceMack said:
Now...heres the scary part...what happens if this turns out to be a black person that said it (like the noose incident in San Diego less than a month ago). It will be very interesting to see! maybe once the individual is caught we will know more if this was an outright racist comment, a kid trying to be funny, or whatever!
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If it was, he needs to be shot in the nuts with a Paintball gun, lol.
 
Blackdog said:
Laughing at the absurdity is one thing, but you know as well as I do not everyone was laughing at that.
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Well I can't speak for them. I can only speak for me. My laughter would have been directed at the guy on the intercom and maybe at the hysteria going on around me.

As for that incident on the tram with me, Rosa Parks, and the family behind me, that was funny mainly because I have this comical tendancy to ram my foot down my throat sometimes because I am a bawdy, irreverent snot and it bites me in the ass once in a while.
 
Blackdog said:
If it was, he needs to be shot in the nuts with a Paintball gun, lol.
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Or prosecuted...jailed...and maybe castrated for good measure?
 
It is always easier to be the joker instead of they jokee.:roll:
 
Objective Voice said:
You, my dear are probably an exception. But you never truly know how you'd react to a situation like this unless you believed yourself to be the victim.
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Well, I guess that's part of it too. I never believe myself to be a 'victim' of anything. I have dealt with blatant sexism. I didn't, and don't now, consider myself a victim.

If someone says something and their intention is to insult me, or offend me, it's my choice to be offended or insulted. I choose not to give people that kind of power over my negative emotions. I choose positive emotions over negative any chance I can.

If someone tries to offend you, and you LET them... well, you just gave them the power they sought. They win. You lose. You choose to carry negative feelings, to express negative emotions, to harbor those negative feelings. You lose.

I walk a different path. I prefer to laugh.
 
Joe1991 said:
But what if they said all fat-assed white girls please leave the store?
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I'd LOL. Then go to the nearest video camera and wiggle my fat ass for them, lick my finger, press it against my ass and make a 'ssssssssss' sound. ;)

Probably start singing 'don't you wish your girlfriend was hot like me'
 
rivrrat said:
I'd LOL. Then go to the nearest video camera and wiggle my fat ass for them, lick my finger, press it against my ass and make a 'ssssssssss' sound. ;)

Probably start singing 'don't you wish your girlfriend was hot like me'
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:rofl:blushing:
 
Objective Voice said:
Well, all I can say is it was a prank that obviously wasn't appreciated by some people, specifically blacks/African Americans like myself. As a man, I was surprised to read such racist foolishness, but as a Black man I'm offended; even moreso by the response by many here who honestly think something like this was funny.

What I'd like to know is how are those who took offense to this racist act the punch line? I mean, if the situation was reversed I think most white people would take offense as well. So, how is it that those who are now boycotting suddenly the people in the wrong here? Granted, as I understand the situation it wasn't Walmart's fault, but the incident happened in one of their stores so they have to take responsibility for it, right or wrong. Regardless, how are those who are boycotting that or any other Walmart store now in the wrong for showing their displeasure for standig up against a racist act?

Overkill? Maybe...but that still doesn't place the victims of racism in the wrong.
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It's too bad that they'll never find out who pulled the gag. It would be awesome if it had been a black person.
 
Mickey Shane said:
It's too bad that they'll never find out who pulled the gag. It would be awesome if it had been a black person.
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And why would that be awesome? To justify people being hurt and you laughing about it? :roll:
 
Jerry said:
The people who are boycotting the store and coming here, getting all bent out of shape over a prank, are the punch line.

You're hysteria is what makes this funny.
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you're hysteria must have caused a momentary synapse misfire.
 
I find the absurdity of it funny. One of the reasons I think it would've been funnier if it was the Irish that were mentioned is that there's no risk of that offending people. The history where the Irish were considered second class citizens is so far in the past that nobody remembers it or had it affect them directly.

At the same time, I don't judge the humor of a thing based on "what ifs". I find it funny for my own reasons. I mean, people make jokes about brain damage all the time in front of me without realizing my father has brain damage and I don't get all pissy over it. I usually just laugh, perhaps even toss in a joke of my own.



Although I personally think the funniest gag would've been saying "All people who don't understand English must leave the store immediately"

At least in that case, it would've been witty. The only way somebody could be offended by that is if they didn't really bother thinking about it.
 
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Blackdog said:
A little over the top, don't you think?
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The castration part...sure...but there have been calls for arrest and prosecution by people that were there...so...if it was a racist idiot...arrest and prosecute...a minority...arrest...and...prosecute too...right?

Its a topic for another thread...but that was the same general tenor in California at UC San Diego...when they thought it was some racist leaving the noose...man...we were expecting race riots. When it turned out to be a young black female student...well...they STILL called for discussions on improving race relations and ending racist attitudes.

Sheesh...its 2010...I'm TIRED of the race thing...I really am...
 
VanceMack said:
The castration part...sure...but there have been calls for arrest and prosecution by people that were there...so...if it was a racist idiot...arrest and prosecute...a minority...arrest...and...prosecute too...right?

Its a topic for another thread...but that was the same general tenor in California at UC San Diego...when they thought it was some racist leaving the noose...man...we were expecting race riots. When it turned out to be a young black female student...well...they STILL called for discussions on improving race relations and ending racist attitudes.

Sheesh...its 2010...I'm TIRED of the race thing...I really am...
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There is no 'race thing'. We elected a ****ing black president. **** people who bitch and moan about racial bull****. I just point at Obama and say, "What up wit dat, yo?" :rofl Ahhh... I kill myself :lol:

Anywho, *some* people want to see 'racism' in every goddamn thing they can. They WANT to see it. And if they WANT to see it, they WILL see it. Simple as. Everything can be distorted into a racial issue. Mostly I ignore them all like the annoying little gnats they are. The race issue in this country ended on Nov 4, 2008. Everything else is insignificant and can be dealt with by people just shutting the **** up and stop looking for something to be offended by every minute of every day.

Seriously, some people need to find something positive in their lives to focus on.
 
rivrrat said:
There is no 'race thing'. We elected a ****ing black president. **** people who bitch and moan about racial bull****. I just point at Obama and say, "What up wit dat, yo?" :rofl Ahhh... I kill myself :lol:

Anywho, *some* people want to see 'racism' in every goddamn thing they can. They WANT to see it. And if they WANT to see it, they WILL see it. Simple as. Everything can be distorted into a racial issue. Mostly I ignore them all like the annoying little gnats they are. The race issue in this country ended on Nov 4, 2008. Everything else is insignificant and can be dealt with by people just shutting the **** up and stop looking for something to be offended by every minute of every day.

Seriously, some people need to find something positive in their lives to focus on.
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This is so stupid it is not even funny. A current of racism exist in this country, and it comes from all sides. It is not discussed openly, but it permeates almost every thing in this country. The good old boy network is alive and well. People calling for racial profiling etc, yea it's gone. :roll:

People who think racism ended because a black guy got elected president are just naive. All his election meant is it is not as open as it was at one time.

Ill tell those that think it is gone to take a challenge. If you are white, go to Ford Heights Illinois and walk down the street at 3:00am. If you are black do the same in Bridgeport Illinois.

I am sorry it is still as ingrained a part of our society as religion.

Don't even try the "playing the race card bull****" it does not float. It is a fact racism in the US against minority's and visa versa is as strong as ever.
 
VanceMack said:
The castration part...sure...but there have been calls for arrest and prosecution by people that were there...so...if it was a racist idiot...arrest and prosecute...a minority...arrest...and...prosecute too...right?
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Yea I was agreeing with you, it is stupid.
 
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