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    Re: "All Black People" Asked to Leave S. Jersey Wal-Mart

    Quote Originally Posted by Partisan View Post
    1) Per capita, it is a fact....
    Disprove it if you can.......

    2) Can't go there......
    1) source please.

    2) What do you mean you can't go there?

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    Re: "All Black People" Asked to Leave S. Jersey Wal-Mart

    Quote Originally Posted by NoJingoLingo View Post
    1) source please.

    2) What do you mean you can't go there?
    Disprove it if you can, but I grow weary of lazy people who don't feel like doing their own research.....

    Here are the statistics on welfare recipients:
    Traits of families on AFDC (1)

    Race
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    White 38.8%
    Black 37.2
    Hispanic 17.8
    Asian 2.8
    Other 3.4

    Time on AFDC
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    Less than 7 months 19.0%
    7 to 12 months 15.2
    One to two years 19.3
    Two to five years 26.9
    Over five years 19.6

    Number of children
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    One 43.2%
    Two 30.7
    Three 15.8
    Four or more 10.3

    Age of Mother
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    Teenager 7.6%
    20 - 29 47.9
    30 - 39 32.7
    40 or older 11.8

    Status of Father 1973 1992
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    Divorced or separated 46.5% 28.6
    Deceased 5.0 1.6
    Unemployed or Disabled 14.3 9.0
    Not married to mother 31.5 55.3
    Other or Unknown 2.7 5.5
    Notes on teenagers

    As the statistics show, teenage mothers comprise a very small part of the welfare population.

    And contrary to popular belief, teenage pregnancy has declined in the last several decades. Many are surprised to learn that the height of teenage pregnancy in the U.S. actually occurred in the 1950s - a decade known for its supposed conservative social values. Between 1960 and 1992, the number of births per 1,000 teenagers (aged 15-19) declined from 89 to 61. (2)

    However, this was also an era when individual welfare benefits declined. Between 1970 and 1991, the purchasing power of benefits for the typical AFDC family fell 42 percent, primarily as a result of state and federal cuts. (3) Ironically, many conservatives will be surprised to learn that their correlation still stands, even if they thought it was in the other direction.

    However, the period from 1946 to 1963 is known as the "Baby Boom," because all childbearing age groups - not just teenagers - were having children at unusually high rates. The teenage birth rate is not the only one that has declined in the decades since.

    Furthermore, the socially conservative 50s featured much less sex education, and many sexually active teenagers were ignorant of birth control. The falling teenage birthrates in the last several decades could as well be correlated with better sex education as falling individual welfare payments.

    And on that score, we should compare the U.S to Europe, which not only promotes early sex education to a far greater degree, but also has far greater welfare benefits for mothers with dependent children. And the success or failure of these two very different policies can be seen in the following statistics:

    Sexually active teenage population: (4)

    Norway 66%
    United States 65
    United Kingdom 57
    Germany 56
    Canada 53
    Italy 34
    France 34

    Percent who have not had intercourse by age 20:

    Boys Girls
    Belgium 61 63
    Netherlands 58 62
    Germany 33 28
    Norway 33 25
    United Kingdom 24 23
    France 9 25
    United States 12 16

    Percent of sexually active single 15 to 19-year olds using
    birth control:


    Germany 95%
    United Kingdom 92
    Netherlands 88
    Norway 87
    Sweden 79
    Denmark 70
    United States 56

    Teen pregnancies per 1,000 teenagers:


    United States 98.0
    United Kingdom 46.6
    Norway 40.2
    Canada 38.6
    Finland 32.1
    Sweden 28.3
    Denmark 27.9
    Netherlands 12.1
    Japan 10.5

    Teenage mothers per 1,000 teenagers

    United States 54
    United Kingdom 31
    Canada 28
    France 25
    Norway 25
    Germany 20
    Finland 19
    Denmark 16
    Switzerland 10
    Netherlands 9
    Japan 4
    Notes on race

    Blacks comprise only 12 percent of the nation, but, according to the above figures, they comprise 37 percent of the welfare rolls. This should not be surprising; in 1994, blacks had a poverty rate of 33 percent. We should not, of course, think it unusual to find poor people on welfare. Consequently, discussions of race and welfare must turn on different issues.

    The most prevalent question is why there are so many blacks in poverty. Liberals argue that it is the result of continuing racism and discrimination, especially at hiring time. Conservatives have argued a variety of other causes: moral shortcomings, poor work ethic, even intellectual inferiority. Another important question is whether welfare causes poverty.



    Return to Overview

    Endnotes:

    1. Overview of Entitlement Programs, Committee on Ways and Means, U.S. House of Representatives (U.S. Government Printing Office, 1994).

    2. U.S. Department of Health and Human Services, Characteristics and Financial Condition of AFDC Recipients, Fiscal Year 1992 (Washington, D.C.: Government Printing Office, 1992); 1994 Green Book, p. 47.


    2) You don't want me to be banned, do you?....
    I'm beginning to think they brought Aaronssong out of retirement to get rid of me.......
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    Re: "All Black People" Asked to Leave S. Jersey Wal-Mart

    Quote Originally Posted by reefedjib View Post
    Would that make it non-racist?
    Yes

    Quote Originally Posted by reefedjib View Post
    Could I fairly add to that:

    There is a cultural impetus among many black teenagers to not do well in school, the so called "white man's education".
    Yes you could. You mite want to post some evidence to back it up though. That is of course unless you are stating it as opinion?
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    Re: "All Black People" Asked to Leave S. Jersey Wal-Mart

    Quote Originally Posted by Blackdog View Post
    Yes



    Yes you could. You mite want to post some evidence to back it up though. That is of course unless you are stating it as opinion?
    I am basing it on several documentaries I have seen that talk about how teenagers will harass black kids that do well in school and so in order to "fit in" many blacks will intentionally not study hard and get things wrong in class.

    I went to an majority black high school. It was located in the projects of east Raleigh, NC. It was called Enloe: Enloe High School - [Enloe High School]. They made it the Magnet School for Wake County and I went there freshman and sophomore years. There was pressure on black kids to be cool and NOT do well in class. There were gangs. There were black-white fights. We got chased out of the projects and a friend of mine got cut in a fight. There were onyl a few blacks kids I knew that did well and they were strongly picked on by other black kids. It took real effort for them to be successful.

    White kids experience something similar, but it is without the added racial message.

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    Re: "All Black People" Asked to Leave S. Jersey Wal-Mart

    Quote Originally Posted by reefedjib View Post
    I am basing it on several documentaries I have seen that talk about how teenagers will harass black kids that do well in school and so in order to "fit in" many blacks will intentionally not study hard and get things wrong in class.

    I went to an majority black high school. It was located in the projects of east Raleigh, NC. It was called Enloe: Enloe High School - [Enloe High School]. They made it the Magnet School for Wake County and I went there freshman and sophomore years. There was pressure on black kids to be cool and NOT do well in class. There were gangs. There were black-white fights. We got chased out of the projects and a friend of mine got cut in a fight. There were onyl a few blacks kids I knew that did well and they were strongly picked on by other black kids. It took real effort for them to be successful.

    White kids experience something similar, but it is without the added racial message.
    Excellent.

    You are now a debate Jedi, lol.
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    Benjii likes the protests...he'd be largely irrelevant without them. So he needs to speak where he knows there will be protests against him and that makes him responsible for the protests.
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    Re: "All Black People" Asked to Leave S. Jersey Wal-Mart

    Quote Originally Posted by Blackdog View Post
    Excellent.

    You are now a debate Jedi, lol.
    Yeah, pretty anecdotal.

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    Re: "All Black People" Asked to Leave S. Jersey Wal-Mart

    Quote Originally Posted by StandUpChuck View Post
    Prove that Glen Beck spreads coded racism and that you're not spreading defamation.

    The last few pages of this thread are just idiotic. People get laid off during a recession because it's a recession. When a company has to do across the board lay offs, they are generally going to look at seniority, positions and departmental budgets. No one has time to scrutinize every single employee for levels of skill. Anyone who has ever been laid off during a downsizing knows this.

    If a company is taking a recession to target people of a specific race, well I think that speaks for itself.
    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n0tgvWxC_6A"]YouTube- Glenn Beck Admits That He Is A Racist[/ame]

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    Re: "All Black People" Asked to Leave S. Jersey Wal-Mart

    Quote Originally Posted by reefedjib View Post
    Yeah, pretty anecdotal.
    Personal experience is always better than third party data.

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    Re: "All Black People" Asked to Leave S. Jersey Wal-Mart

    Quote Originally Posted by LiberalAvenger View Post
    Is that the best you can do? You not only fail miserably, you owe me 80 seconds of my life back.
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    You guys are weird.

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    Re: "All Black People" Asked to Leave S. Jersey Wal-Mart

    Quote Originally Posted by LiberalAvenger View Post
    I didn't hear any admission there...YouTube title is misleading.
    It's just a collection of sound/video bits which are construed as racist.
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