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    Re: "All Black People" Asked to Leave S. Jersey Wal-Mart

    Quote Originally Posted by reefedjib View Post
    Nice of you to drop by again, after ignoring my other posts on your claim that blacks are victimized, in order to proclaim my statement as racist.

    Well, you know, prove it. What is racist about it? I speak the truth. Hard to swallow for you victimizing liberals.
    Oh, yet another Fox News inspired "talking point"....that all liberals are enablers for blacks to perpetuate their perceived roles as "victims".
    Just because you think it or say it, doesn't make it so.

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    Re: "All Black People" Asked to Leave S. Jersey Wal-Mart

    Quote Originally Posted by Blackdog View Post
    Who said anything about victimization? I commented on your "per capita" comment only. Now if you have evidence to prove me wrong, let it fly. Otherwise the only one playing a victim here would be you.
    Amazing when an truth arises out of chaos.

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    Re: "All Black People" Asked to Leave S. Jersey Wal-Mart

    Quote Originally Posted by reefedjib View Post
    When you have "leaders", in the inner city, such as Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson promoting a victim mentality and disparaging the brilliant analysis and prescription of Bill Cosby and John McWhorter and others, then there is a lot of cluelessness. I in no way mean that all of the black committee, if you could even narrow it down to one, feel the same way, but there is broad support for victimhood. If you are from the inner city, joined the service, got a college degree, then you have escaped it and I congratulate you. You are the exception.
    There we go....I wondered how long it would take before someone took to scapegoating the "usual suspects", Al and Jesse. Oh, and lest we forget the counter to Bill Cosby's tirade on the black poor, Dr. Michael Eric Dyson's retort, "Is Bill Cosby Right?"
    Was Bill Cosby right about race in America? - History and politics.

    So called "victimhood" is a white based, conservative right wing "talking point" and bumper sticker, and nothing more. It's code for black people and Democrats, and liberals. I'm from the inner city (Chicago and Houston), went 1-A in the draft and missed being called up, for a war I would have never fought in (Vietnam War), and would have opted for a CO, if the call had come through...encountered racism from the faculty of the University of Houston, and later landed a college level position in the Texas Medical Center, with determination and smarts. I've never asked for handout. Never got one either.
    Some of us work for "ours"...contrary to popular belief.
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    Re: "All Black People" Asked to Leave S. Jersey Wal-Mart

    Quote Originally Posted by reefedjib View Post
    Some people thought it was funny, oh well so what? They'll laugh at anyone being offended. Assholes.

    Now about that being offended bit. I fail to see how the black people in the store being offended translates to them being victims. Someone being offended does not make them a victim in my book. I notice 1069 has failed to respond to any post questioning her wild claims. I guess you know when you are holding an indefensible position.
    I originally posted "hear, hear", when I meant the opposite.
    I condemn your characterization. Black people in the store were "victimized" by a racially-based prank.
    Apparently, criminal charges are being brought against the juvenile offender, and rightfully so.
    I agree with 1069's position.

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    Re: "All Black People" Asked to Leave S. Jersey Wal-Mart

    Quote Originally Posted by aaronssongs View Post
    I originally posted "hear, hear", when I meant the opposite.
    I condemn your characterization. Black people in the store were "victimized" by a racially-based prank.
    Apparently, criminal charges are being brought against the juvenile offender, and rightfully so.
    I agree with 1069's position.
    Please.......
    Any charge will be a trumped up one so that the 'victims' can feel jusified in their 'moral outrage'.....
    I suppose he should get life in prison, so the 'victims' can heal.....
    There is so much BS flying, I want to donate to his defense fund........

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    Re: "All Black People" Asked to Leave S. Jersey Wal-Mart

    Quote Originally Posted by Blackdog View Post
    Per capita means little when you look at wealth distribution in this country.
    Per capita says that as a pecentage there are far more blacks on welfare & unemployment than any other category.......
    I could be wrong about unemployment as one must first work to be eligible....

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    Re: "All Black People" Asked to Leave S. Jersey Wal-Mart

    Try this: Economist's View: Black and White Unemployment Over Time

    Do you dispute these charts?.....

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    Re: "All Black People" Asked to Leave S. Jersey Wal-Mart

    So, I was curious about this word "victim".

    And, thus:
    Victim - According to the Merriam-Webster Dictionary
    Main Entry: vic•tim
    Pronunciation: \ˈvik-təm\
    Function: noun
    Etymology: Latin victima; perhaps akin to Old High German wīh holy
    Date: 15th century
    1 : a living being sacrificed to a deity or in the performance of a religious rite
    2 : one that is acted on and usually adversely affected by a force or agent <the schools are victims of the social system>: as a (1) : one that is injured, destroyed, or sacrificed under any of various conditions <a victim of cancer> <a victim of the auto crash> <a murder victim> (2) : one that is subjected to oppression, hardship, or mistreatment <a frequent victim of political attacks> b : one that is tricked or duped <a con man's victim>
    Obviously the first definition does not apply in this case...I hope.

    So it would seem the second must.

    I find myself seemingly somewhat in the middle on this.

    I don't consider "inner city blacks" (or any subset of the population in a similar situation) to be powerless in the face of whatever force is causing them to be in such a situation.

    Neither, however, do I consider them exclusively to blame (due to laziness, or whatever) for their own situation.

    I think there are multiple factors involved, most of which I probably don't even know exist.

    Since I'm a selfish bastard, and have more important things to do (*goes off to play a PC game*), I probably won't take the time to find out.

    What could I possibly do if I did know all the factors (which would probably be the work of a lifetime in itself)?

    Write a book?

    Been done.

    Give speeches about it?

    Also done.

    Has it really changed anything?

    Not so far as I can tell.

    Although I will say that it seems the poor people in the US (even the homeless), are filthy rich, compared to some in other countries.

    It's a f'd up world.
    Education.

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    Re: "All Black People" Asked to Leave S. Jersey Wal-Mart

    Quote Originally Posted by Partisan View Post
    Please.......
    Any charge will be a trumped up one so that the 'victims' can feel jusified in their 'moral outrage'.....
    I suppose he should get life in prison, so the 'victims' can heal.....
    There is so much BS flying, I want to donate to his defense fund........
    Stop the over dramatics.
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    Re: "All Black People" Asked to Leave S. Jersey Wal-Mart

    Quote Originally Posted by Partisan View Post
    Try this: Economist's View: Black and White Unemployment Over Time

    Do you dispute these charts?.....
    What is the source of the data for those graphs?
    Education.

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