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    With Medicaid Cuts, Doctors and Patients Drop Out

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    Quote from article(The inadequacy of Medicaid payments is severe enough that it has become a rare point of agreement in the health care debate between President Obama and Congressional Republicans.)

    Now Obama agree with what the GOP has been saying all along?

    (In a letter to Congress after their February health care meeting, Mr. Obama wrote that rates might need to rise if Democrats achieved their goal of extending Medicaid eligibility to 15 million uninsured Americans.)

    Funny, all i have read is about where Obama says rates will reduce.

    Is this clown changing his mind on change?

    The Death Panel actually means death through being unable to find a Dr. who can afford to starve while accepting Medicaid patients.

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    Re: With Medicaid Cuts, Doctors and Patients Drop Out

    Nobody who uses the phrase death panel is worth talking to...
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    Re: With Medicaid Cuts, Doctors and Patients Drop Out

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    Nobody who uses the phrase death panel is worth talking to...
    Anyone who doesn't understand why the use of the term fits is uninformed or hasn't either listened to Der Fuhrer Obama or has comprehension problems in reading.

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    Two of every three practicing physicians oppose the medical overhaul plan under consideration in Washington, and hundreds of thousands would think about shutting down their practices or retiring early if it were adopted, a new IBD/TIPP Poll has found.

    The poll contradicts the claims of not only the White House, but also doctors' own lobby — the powerful American Medical Association — both of which suggest the medical profession is behind the proposed overhaul.

    It also calls into question whether an overhaul is even doable; 72% of the doctors polled disagree with the administration's claim that the government can cover 47 million more people with better-quality care at lower cost.

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    Re: With Medicaid Cuts, Doctors and Patients Drop Out

    Quote Originally Posted by jujuman13 View Post
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    With Medicaid Cuts, Doctors and Patients Drop Out - NYTimes.com

    Quote from article(The inadequacy of Medicaid payments is severe enough that it has become a rare point of agreement in the health care debate between President Obama and Congressional Republicans.)

    Now Obama agree with what the GOP has been saying all along?

    (In a letter to Congress after their February health care meeting, Mr. Obama wrote that rates might need to rise if Democrats achieved their goal of extending Medicaid eligibility to 15 million uninsured Americans.)

    Funny, all i have read is about where Obama says rates will reduce.

    Is this clown changing his mind on change?

    The Death Panel actually means death through being unable to find a Dr. who can afford to starve while accepting Medicaid patients.

    You’ll have to pardon me for being a bit skeptical of a poll conducted by “Investors Business Daily” which said If Stephen Hawking Lived In The U.K., He Would Be Dead. When in fact he lived in the UK for 67 years.
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    Re: With Medicaid Cuts, Doctors and Patients Drop Out

    Quote Originally Posted by jujuman13 View Post
    Quote from article(The inadequacy of Medicaid payments is severe enough that it has become a rare point of agreement in the health care debate between President Obama and Congressional Republicans.)
    Medicaid, like Medicare, faces large and growing fiscal challenges. While some physicians might retire early, there is no reason the U.S. could not do what is done in other sectors where there are critical labor shortages: open them up to immigrants/foreigners who possess adequate skills.

    Introducing competition to the health care industry would be a welcome development. It would also be market-oriented. Increased competition in health services (physicians, providers, insurers, hospitals) could be one means of shifting supply relative to demand and starting to tackle the persistent problem of national health expenditures rising in excess of nominal GDP.

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    Re: With Medicaid Cuts, Doctors and Patients Drop Out

    This can't possibly be true, first because someone said "death panel" and second because Stephen Hawking is alive.

    So there.

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    Re: With Medicaid Cuts, Doctors and Patients Drop Out

    Quote Originally Posted by jujuman13 View Post
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    With Medicaid Cuts, Doctors and Patients Drop Out - NYTimes.com

    Quote from article(The inadequacy of Medicaid payments is severe enough that it has become a rare point of agreement in the health care debate between President Obama and Congressional Republicans.)

    Now Obama agree with what the GOP has been saying all along?

    (In a letter to Congress after their February health care meeting, Mr. Obama wrote that rates might need to rise if Democrats achieved their goal of extending Medicaid eligibility to 15 million uninsured Americans.)

    Funny, all i have read is about where Obama says rates will reduce.

    Is this clown changing his mind on change?

    The Death Panel actually means death through being unable to find a Dr. who can afford to starve while accepting Medicaid patients.
    This is one of those "No **** Sherlock" moments. Rates might need to rise? Really? Extend coverage, cut back on medicaid... create a huge bureaucracy and it'll raise costs?

    Who'd have thunk it.
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    Re: With Medicaid Cuts, Doctors and Patients Drop Out

    Quote Originally Posted by donsutherland1 View Post
    Medicaid, like Medicare, faces large and growing fiscal challenges. While some physicians might retire early, there is no reason the U.S. could not do what is done in other sectors where there are critical labor shortages: open them up to immigrants/foreigners who possess adequate skills.

    Introducing competition to the health care industry would be a welcome development. It would also be market-oriented. Increased competition in health services (physicians, providers, insurers, hospitals) could be one means of shifting supply relative to demand and starting to tackle the persistent problem of national health expenditures rising in excess of nominal GDP.
    This is already happening.
    The USA has an enormous number of foreign Dr. not only as Primary care but also as Specialists.

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    Re: With Medicaid Cuts, Doctors and Patients Drop Out

    Quote Originally Posted by donsutherland1 View Post
    Medicaid, like Medicare, faces large and growing fiscal challenges. While some physicians might retire early, there is no reason the U.S. could not do what is done in other sectors where there are critical labor shortages: open them up to immigrants/foreigners who possess adequate skills.

    Introducing competition to the health care industry would be a welcome development. It would also be market-oriented. Increased competition in health services (physicians, providers, insurers, hospitals) could be one means of shifting supply relative to demand and starting to tackle the persistent problem of national health expenditures rising in excess of nominal GDP.
    I read a good article the other day about the increase in managed care in the health industry. I think we should definetly utilize HMO's to control costs, as well as to provide competition in the market.

    All managed care plans have a built-in incentive to limit costs, because more treatments do not automatically mean more revenue for health providers. Today, many cost-control methods, such as integrated and electronic medical records, are already common in H.M.O.’s. During managed care’s heyday in the early 1990s, inflation in health care costs was much lower than it is now.

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    The current tax exemption for health insurance benefits could be modified to encourage more cost-effective delivery systems, including forms of managed care that meet quality standards. For the elderly, the current Medicare fee-for-service method could be transformed into voucher programs for managed care treatment. Of course, people could go outside their network for additional services, if they were willing to pay.

    It’s not well advertised, but the Obama plan would move in this direction. Many people receiving new health insurance coverage would be enrolled in Medicaid, which already relies on managed care for about half of its patients.
    http://www.nytimes.com/2010/03/14/bu...r+PTTtdNtsZkdQ

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