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    House may try to pass Senate health-care bill without voting on it

    Regretfully I have to use this source as the link.
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    I have no doubt the Mods will move this posting claiming either it is not from a reputable source (which fact I concur)
    Or they will claim it is not breaking news.

    I am posting this story because I would like to know how other people feel about what I see as a deliberate attempt to circumnavigate what small amount of Democracy remains in the USA.

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    Re: House may try to pass Senate health-care bill without voting on it

    Good. It's about time the Democrats grew some stones, kicked the Party of No out of the way and got done what needed to be done.
    I'm Done

    See my last post

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    Re: House may try to pass Senate health-care bill without voting on it

    Quote Originally Posted by Hoplite View Post
    Good. It's about time the Democrats grew some stones, kicked the Party of No out of the way and got done what needed to be done.
    the "without voting" on it part, doesn't bother you?

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    Re: House may try to pass Senate health-care bill without voting on it

    Quote Originally Posted by Hoplite View Post
    Good. It's about time the Democrats grew some stones, kicked the Party of No out of the way and got done what needed to be done.
    Oh, so breaking protocol and most probably the law is fine as long as you agree with the issue? Do you want to go on the record as saying that?
    Neither side in an argument can find the truth when both make an absolute claim on it.

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    Re: House may try to pass Senate health-care bill without voting on it

    Quote Originally Posted by DarkWizard12 View Post
    the "without voting" on it part, doesn't bother you?
    At this point, I dont care. I just want to see some progress made on the healthcare problem.

    Quote Originally Posted by LaMidRighter View Post
    Oh, so breaking protocol and most probably the law is fine as long as you agree with the issue? Do you want to go on the record as saying that?
    Hey it was ok the last 8 years.
    I'm Done

    See my last post

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    Re: House may try to pass Senate health-care bill without voting on it

    the slaughter solution can't be done, it's impossible

    it is also PROOF the speaker doesn't have the votes

    if she did why would she threaten to move it without them

    "nobody wants to vote for the senate bill," nancy pelosi, ides of march, 2010

    what ms slaughter is saying is very inside baseball---by writing up a reconciliation in spratt's budget committee that uses lots of language just presuming that the reid bill had already past, assuming it, talking about reid in the past tense, operating on the premise that reid is signed law...

    slaughter is saying that by writing up such a reconciliation and then getting members to ASSENT to it, then that act in itself ENDORSES all those conspicuous presuppositions in the LANGUAGE of spratt...

    and leadership can then DEEM the bill passed based on membership's having taken action dependent on the presumption of reid

    it's patently absurd

    nancy doesn't have the votes, she's never gonna get the votes

    and slaughter cannot stand, all stuff and nonsense

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    Re: House may try to pass Senate health-care bill without voting on it

    Quote Originally Posted by Hoplite View Post
    At this point, I dont care. I just want to see some progress made on the healthcare problem.
    Fine, hope you know because it breaks protocol, it'll go to the courts.
    Hey it was ok the last 8 years.
    Im afraid you can't use that as an excuse....sorry.

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    Re: House may try to pass Senate health-care bill without voting on it

    Quote Originally Posted by jujuman13 View Post
    Regretfully I have to use this source as the link.
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    House may try to pass Senate health-care bill without voting on it
    I have no doubt the Mods will move this posting claiming either it is not from a reputable source (which fact I concur)
    Or they will claim it is not breaking news.

    I am posting this story because I would like to know how other people feel about what I see as a deliberate attempt to circumnavigate what small amount of Democracy remains in the USA.
    From your own source:

    "The tactic -- known as a "self-executing rule" or a "deem and pass" -- has been commonly used, although never to pass legislation as momentous as the $875 billion health-care bill."


    They are still voting on the bill. They are voting on a bill that approves the bill. If someone doesn't like the bill all they need to do is vote against it. There is nothing illegal.

    Right wingers will cry about anything, lol.

    Get over it.

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    Re: House may try to pass Senate health-care bill without voting on it

    Quote Originally Posted by roughdraft274 View Post
    From your own source:

    "The tactic -- known as a "self-executing rule" or a "deem and pass" -- has been commonly used, although never to pass legislation as momentous as the $875 billion health-care bill."


    They are still voting on the bill. They are voting on a bill that approves the bill. If someone doesn't like the bill all they need to do is vote against it. There is nothing illegal.

    Right wingers will cry about anything, lol.

    Get over it.
    I have not discussed the Legality of passing Legislation as momentous as this with such a rule as 'deem and pass', personally I do not have the knowledge to argue such.

    I merely question the wisdom of passing such 'momentous legislation' by using such a method.
    To me it smacks very much of non representative rule, but doubtless you are of a differing opinion.

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    Re: House may try to pass Senate health-care bill without voting on it

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hoplite View Post
    At this point, I dont care. I just want to see some progress made on the healthcare problem.
    This bill is only going to make things worse. You are backing the wrong horse.

    Hey it was ok the last 8 years.
    Examples?
    Neither side in an argument can find the truth when both make an absolute claim on it.

    LMR

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