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    Re: House may try to pass Senate health-care bill without voting on it

    Quote Originally Posted by Hoplite View Post
    Good. It's about time the Democrats grew some stones, kicked the Party of No out of the way and got done what needed to be done.


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    Re: House may try to pass Senate health-care bill without voting on it

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    I see...so...thou shalt walk lockstep in line with party...no room for independent thought...

    Good lord...no wonder this country is so screwed up.
    It's amazing.

    The Republicans have practically made up a litmus test to enter their party, but how dare those democrats do everything they can to get this 1 key piece of legislation through. THEY'RE RUINING THE COUNTRY!

    I have some problems with the way some things were done, I didn't like the bribes and I still hope that they'll get taken out (though I think the whole "behind closed doors" and ramming it down our throats crap is pure BS) but when you have a piece of legislation that will help the country as much as this one will and has been this long over due, you make every push you can.

    In the world of politics, threatening to not campaign for someone if they don't vote for this bill just doesn't seem controversial at all to me like some people try to make it out to be.

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    Re: House may try to pass Senate health-care bill without voting on it

    Quote Originally Posted by roughdraft274 View Post
    It's amazing.

    The Republicans have practically made up a litmus test to enter their party, but how dare those democrats do everything they can to get this 1 key piece of legislation through. THEY'RE RUINING THE COUNTRY!

    I have some problems with the way some things were done, I didn't like the bribes and I still hope that they'll get taken out (though I think the whole "behind closed doors" and ramming it down our throats crap is pure BS) but when you have a piece of legislation that will help the country as much as this one will and has been this long over due, you make every push you can.

    In the world of politics, threatening to not campaign for someone if they don't vote for this bill just doesn't seem controversial at all to me like some people try to make it out to be.



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    this has nothing to do with Republican/democrat but constitutional law.
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    Re: House may try to pass Senate health-care bill without voting on it

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    In order for a "Bill" to "become a Law," it "shall have passed the House of Representatives and the Senate" and be "presented to the President of the United States" for signature or veto. Unless a bill actually has "passed" both Houses, it cannot be presented to the president and cannot become a law.



    this has nothing to do with Republican/democrat but constitutional law.
    And there is a rule in the House where you can vote on a bill that also deems another bill to be passed. It's not a new rule. If anyone doesn't want it passed, then don't vote for it.

    If they vote for a bill that passes another bill, does that mean that bill passed? Well, by definition, yes.

    I haven't seen anyone actually give a reason as to why this can't be done. Just talking points on how they will pass it without a vote.

    If you don't like how they do it then that's your problem.

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    Re: House may try to pass Senate health-care bill without voting on it

    Quote Originally Posted by roughdraft274 View Post
    And there is a rule in the House where you can vote on a bill that also deems another bill to be passed. It's not a new rule. If anyone doesn't want it passed, then don't vote for it.

    If they vote for a bill that passes another bill, does that mean that bill passed? Well, by definition, yes.

    I haven't seen anyone actually give a reason as to why this can't be done. Just talking points on how they will pass it without a vote.

    If you don't like how they do it then that's your problem.


    If I am a member of the house, who wants to vote "no" on this, where will my no vote be recorded as required as outlined in the US Constitution if they do this?
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    Re: House may try to pass Senate health-care bill without voting on it

    it's not "our problem"

    LOL!

    it's hers

    if you can deem it, deem it

    you can't, way short of 216, not close

    health care's dead

    deal with it

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    Re: House may try to pass Senate health-care bill without voting on it

    Quote Originally Posted by Reverend_Hellh0und View Post
    If I am a member of the house, who wants to vote "no" on this, where will my no vote be recorded as required as outlined in the US Constitution if they do this?
    ?

    You can vote no on the bill that will enact the bill.

    If you're trying to point the fact that they will be voting on another bill that will pass another bill along with it, I think everyone understands it at this point.

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    Re: House may try to pass Senate health-care bill without voting on it

    to vote on "another bill that will pass another bill along with it..."

    you think "everyone understands it at this point..."

    well, you clearly don't

    weird

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    Re: House may try to pass Senate health-care bill without voting on it

    Quote Originally Posted by The Prof View Post
    it's not "our problem"

    LOL!

    it's hers

    if you can deem it, deem it

    you can't, way short of 216, not close

    health care's dead

    deal with it
    I'm not fond of holding grudges or getting petty, and I want this bill to be passed purely because of the good it will do, but I fully intend to come on here and read all of your posts right after this bill passes. Should be some great entertainment watching you backtrack. I'm already bookmarking the dozens of threads you've repeated you're tired old talking points in.

    Have you heard about Dennis Kucinich's press meeting scheduled later today?

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    Re: House may try to pass Senate health-care bill without voting on it

    Quote Originally Posted by roughdraft274 View Post
    ?

    You can vote no on the bill that will enact the bill.

    If you're trying to point the fact that they will be voting on another bill that will pass another bill along with it, I think everyone understands it at this point.



    lol wut?




    Seriously, how as a house member can I cast my vote if they use this slaughter method?
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