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    Re: House may try to pass Senate health-care bill without voting on it

    right wingers are hardly crying

    we're jumping for joy for our huge political victory!

    someone around here is as tone deaf as our large lobed loser of a president

    health care is dead

    she doesn't have the votes

    obama's is the incredibly already irrelevant administration

    why was it he cancelled his trip to guam, again?

    LOL!

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    Re: House may try to pass Senate health-care bill without voting on it

    Quote Originally Posted by LaMidRighter View Post
    This bill is only going to make things worse. You are backing the wrong horse.
    Y'know, I dont give a damn anymore, I really dont. I wish I could say I do but I just really dont. I'm so sick of people WITH health insurance crying about how we dont NEED to fix the system, there's nothing WRONG with it! At this point I really dont care anymore, I want something to happen, I want to know that I can go to the hospital without worrying about "Are they going to kick me out because I have no health insurance?" or that I'm going to get a med student for a doctor because I cant pay. Walk into a hospital with no insurance, it's a REAL eye opening experience let me tell you.

    Examples?
    Warrantless wiretapping, PATRIOT, for starters.
    I'm Done

    See my last post

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    Re: House may try to pass Senate health-care bill without voting on it

    Quote Originally Posted by Hoplite View Post


    Warrantless wiretapping, PATRIOT, for starters.
    Passed by a full house, with a real vote. Try again.
    Neither side in an argument can find the truth when both make an absolute claim on it.

    LMR

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    Re: House may try to pass Senate health-care bill without voting on it

    Quote Originally Posted by LaMidRighter View Post
    Passed by a full house, with a real vote. Try again.
    LEVERAGED through
    I'm Done

    See my last post

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    Re: House may try to pass Senate health-care bill without voting on it

    Quote Originally Posted by Hoplite View Post
    LEVERAGED through
    We're not talking about leverage, we're talking about a huge ass bill being squeezed through without even a vote!

    If you support this, then you should support the republicans using this process with every single fcking bill, because their going to do that after they take back the house and the senate.

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    Re: House may try to pass Senate health-care bill without voting on it

    Quote Originally Posted by DarkWizard12 View Post
    the "without voting" on it part, doesn't bother you?
    They dont care how the bill is passed, so long as it is passed.
    The ends justify the means, see...

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    Re: House may try to pass Senate health-care bill without voting on it

    Quote Originally Posted by Hoplite View Post
    Good. It's about time the Democrats grew some stones, kicked the Party of No out of the way and got done what needed to be done.
    You do know that the -only- thing holding up the bill is the unwillingness of DEMS to vote 'yes', right?

    Or, is partisan bigotry more important to you than the truth?

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    Re: House may try to pass Senate health-care bill without voting on it

    Quote Originally Posted by Hoplite View Post
    Y'know, I dont give a damn anymore, I really dont. I wish I could say I do but I just really dont. I'm so sick of people WITH health insurance crying about how we dont NEED to fix the system, there's nothing WRONG with it! At this point I really dont care anymore, I want something to happen, I want to know that I can go to the hospital without worrying about "Are they going to kick me out because I have no health insurance?" or that I'm going to get a med student for a doctor because I cant pay. Walk into a hospital with no insurance, it's a REAL eye opening experience let me tell you.
    with all due respect, YOUR understandable and almost uncontainable frustration is NOT justification enough for the entire nation to undergo such radical reform of 1/6 of everything via so FLIMSY a process, methodology, procedure...

    in addition, if nancy can't find members sufficiently unafraid of voters at home to pass the SENATE BILL, she will come up even shorter on this DEEM, damnable as IT is sure to be DEEMED even by DEMS back in the wards

    think about it

    we are looking at a leadership so lost in desperation it can't see straight, which all starts at the top

    the ny times yesterday referred to health care as "obama's sick obsesssion"

    it's making YOU sick, i sympathize

    america wants this thing buried, months ago

    in normal political perspectives, we wouldn't be talking about this

    but obama just won't let his sick little obsession go

    sorry

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    Re: House may try to pass Senate health-care bill without voting on it

    My hope is it gets DEEMED, found unconstitutional in a few years and that'll put the last nail in the coffin. Otherwise, if Dems actually vote for it and it passes ... it'll be worse.
    I think if Thomas Jefferson were looking down, the author of the Bill of Rights, on whats being proposed here, hed agree with it. He would agree that the First Amendment cannot be absolute. - Chuck Schumer (D). Yet, Madison and Mason wrote the Bill of Rights, according to Sheila Jackson Lee, 400 years ago. Yup, it's a fact.


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    Re: House may try to pass Senate health-care bill without voting on it

    At this point, the only option Obama and Pelosi have is to agree to reconcile the bill after the bill and try to win approval, then STAB THOSE DEMOCRATS IN THE BACKS AFTER OBAMA SIGNS IT, and never take it to reconciliation.

    If it goes to reconciliation, the Republicans can propose as many amendments as they want to and stall it until the November elections.

    The only way Pelosi and Obama can save any face is to put it in reconciliation, then blame the Republicans for obstructing the bill. But I don't think the Democrats TRUST Obama and Pelosi to actually do what they said they'd do and reconcile after the fact.

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