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Ties between Israel and US 'worst in 35 years'

I was surprised to find that the almost all the defenders at the Alamo were Freemasons. And a Welshman.

Limiting the options to one deity excludes a lot of gods. Being three for the price of one, that excludes Christianity completely.

The masons, while religious in nature, is a fraternity and not a religion in and of itself. When invoking the "blessing of diety" prior to their important undertakings, the diety is always addrerssed as "T.G.A.O.T.U.," meaning, The Great Architech of the Universe, respectively. The reason behind that is because Freemasons come from too many cultures, countries, races, ethnicities and religious faiths to count and "harmony and strength is the support of all institutions." Masonry in America, I have observed, doesn't endorse any religion over another but does have a particular lean to christianity, in as much of the rightous morals it represents, amongst it's brethren. But being religiously "benign," so to speak, always works better towards keeping the peace.

Religion and politics make for upheaval and ill-will. So Masons leaves matters such as those to politicians and preachers. In the lodge, the guy to your left might be a muslim and the guy to you're right might be a southern baptist. The guy in front might be a Catholic and the guy behind you might be a Wiccan. Who knows? Who even cares?

It's amazing what one can accomplish without the heavy yoke of religious or political idealogies weighing them down. The United States, being just one example. The US would be MUCH better if it realized that harmony and strength is the support of all institutions. You can lead a horse to water...... :roll:
 
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I wanna be a free mason.
 
Being an Atheist I don't care what the founding fathers believed in. Democracy is a work in progress. In order for it to do that it requires progress.One can't step forward with both feet on the ground. And while it's important to look back at where we came from we don't advance without leaving some of the past behind.
 
piss off aipac at your peril, president pie-in-the-face

After meeting, deafening silence - Laura Rozen and Ben Smith - POLITICO.com

dang, dudes, it's like the dummy is a complete NEWCOMER to american politics

where was this KID raised?

certainly not in an american home as politics driven as MINE

HE DOESN'T UNDERSTAND THESE THINGS

HE DOESN'T KNOW HOW AMERICAN POLITICS ARE PLAYED

it's a lot like passing RADICAL REFORM of 1/6 of all united states society WITH THE BACKING OF ONLY EIGHTY PERCENT OF YOUR OWN PARTY

LOL!

social security, medicare, the civil rights act---all enjoyed MAJORITY support from the opposition

pieface can't even get 90% of HIS OWN CAUCUS---LOL!

NOT winning politics

gramma's pissed

and you know how jewish gramma's can be...
 
Obama's inexperience on every issue becomes more obvious every day...Hee has these socialist like the AG Eric Holder advising him and he has no clue..He is killing our relationship with Israel...I don't know if its his Arab ties while he was growing up or if he is just plain stupid....I suspect the latter..........I really don't know how we can survive 3 more years with this mental midget.......

God help us........
 
Obama's inexperience on every issue becomes more obvious every day...Hee has these socialist like the AG Eric Holder advising him and he has no clue..He is killing our relationship with Israel...I don't know if its his Arab ties while he was growing up or if he is just plain stupid....I suspect the latter..........I really don't know how we can survive 3 more years with this mental midget.......

God help us........

Hilarious. Indonesia is not part of the Arab world. And even then, he was back in America from fifth grade till the end of high school.
 
Obama has delusions of adequacy and is an amateur at everything except lying, at that he is the consummate professional unequaled in modern times.

What's worse he has appointed the least qualified bunch of worthless people in history to help him screw up everything he does, with the exception of destroying the economy. In that he is well on his way.

He knows about as much about diplomacy as he does public speaking without a teleprompter.

I wonder if he says um an ah in normal conversation or is it just when he has to try to think. For someone people claim is brilliant he seems pretty incompetent and frankly stupid most of the time and is supported by the same.
 
Hilarious. Indonesia is not part of the Arab world. And even then, he was back in America from fifth grade till the end of high school.

While I agree with you on this point, I believe he was referring to his Kenyan roots.

However, Kenya is not Arab, though the Swahili language was formed through a blending of a Bantu base with Arab blending in through the influence of traders plying the trade routes along the East African coast.

As for Indonesia, like Kenya it is NOT part of the Arab world, but IS the world's largest Islamic country.
 
Gray_Fox_86 said:
How can we stay out of Israel's affairs, when the whole Hollywierd is controlled by Zionists who will not let any US President do what is best for this country? If the President were to say anything critical about Israel-or anybody for that matter-in this country people would automatically call you a anti-semite. When in reality you are a anti-zionist. There is a big difference between the two but no the media outlets would make sure that the people will label you as a racist.
Again you are putting "Jews" and "Zionists" in the same group. Do you not understand that there is a difference?
After your gratuitous call fall the "Fall of Israel" earlier today in the Libya string...
http://www.debatepolitics.com/break...reds-libyans-shot-down-11.html#post1059302222
I thought a look-see was in order.

Turns out this isn't an isolated incident. As your conspiratorial allegation here shows a consistent Bias not just against Israel/The Jewish state, but "the Zionists [Jews] who control Hollywierd", and the US President, etc.

And for the record, probably 97% of Jews ARE "zionists" in that they support Israel's existence.
So if you 'just hate Zionists' that wouldn't effect your status as to the term of art for such a bias.
 
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While I agree with you on this point, I believe he was referring to his Kenyan roots.

However, Kenya is not Arab, though the Swahili language was formed through a blending of a Bantu base with Arab blending in through the influence of traders plying the trade routes along the East African coast.

As for Indonesia, like Kenya it is NOT part of the Arab world, but IS the world's largest Islamic country.

Though Swahili is one of Kenya`s official languages, in the area around Lake Victoria (where Obama Sr. was born) it's Dholuo that is spoken predominately along with English.
 
There's the reason (other than the obvious) he jars with rabid conservatives. He speaks English. They're still fighting the war of independence.
 
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