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    Re: Lesbian sgt. discharged after police tell military

    This is why it should be left up to the commander's discretion. There was no need to discharge her.

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    Re: Lesbian sgt. discharged after police tell military

    Quote Originally Posted by Ethereal View Post
    This is why it should be left up to the commander's discretion. There was no need to discharge her.
    Well... according to the edicts of the terms of military conduct... there was.

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    Re: Lesbian sgt. discharged after police tell military

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    Re: Lesbian sgt. discharged after police tell military

    People everywhere, who do not believe as you do, seem to be plagued by something I bet...

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    Re: Lesbian sgt. discharged after police tell military

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    From the linked article:



    She was pretty free and clear of any of what you mention.
    No. Clearances are renewed every 5 years, and if you change jobs, it may trigger an investigation if the new job requires a higher clearance level. I was responding to the notion that the Air Force wouldn't have taken any action that might have discovered the marriage certificate.
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    Re: Lesbian sgt. discharged after police tell military

    Quote Originally Posted by Moon View Post
    No. Clearances are renewed every 5 years, and if you change jobs, it may trigger an investigation if the new job requires a higher clearance level. I was responding to the notion that the Air Force wouldn't have taken any action that might have discovered the marriage certificate.
    First, not everyone requires a clearance for their job. Second, 5 years is for a top secret clearance. Secret clearances last 10 years. And the most commonly needed security clearance is secret.
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    Re: Lesbian sgt. discharged after police tell military

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    ..... what makes marriage certificates public?
    Marriage certificates are a matter of public record, just like deeds, titles, birth certificates, etc.

    You would be surprised just how much information about you is available to the public.

    Hatuey if you didn't know this then no wonder you get so upset in gay-marriage threads. Marriage is a lot less private then you think.
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    Re: Lesbian sgt. discharged after police tell military

    Quote Originally Posted by Councilman View Post
    Great another story to take focus off important issues.

    Is it too bad the police wanted to get this woman? Yes!

    Do they need to pay a price for it? Yes!

    Is it worth more than 700 posts when we need to spending our time trying to stop the Obama Reid and Pelosi express from derailing the nation with the Health care Cap & Trade HOAXES the threat to wreck our economy and cure not a damn thing.

    Let's hope this former soldier gets justice. I'm not by any stretch pro gay but right is right and wrong is BS.

    Now have you told your People on Capital Hill you don't want this BS or have you fallen for the Obama lies?
    C'mon, guy. This is in no way a "Wag the Dog" situation; has nothing to do with the health care reform issue at all - not even close! Can we stay on topic, please?

    The local police were clearly out of line here. They couldn't force Sgt. Newsome to come home to rat out her partner, so they ratted her out instead....low blow! And Redress is 100% correct; if she lied about her sexual orientation, Sgt Newsome could be charged with "Conduct Unbecoming..." or something along those lines and receive a Bad Conduct Discharge (BCD). If she admits her sexual preference and her lesbian marriage, she's outta there anyway. Sgt Newsome couldn't win!
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    Re: Lesbian sgt. discharged after police tell military

    Quote Originally Posted by texmaster View Post
    Oh spare us this bleeding heart bull****. She knew what the policy was and she knew the risks.
    Quote Originally Posted by Gina View Post
    And as those who support your position constantly argue, she kept her preference to herself, not flaunting it at work, but nonetheless, she's lost her career.
    Quote Originally Posted by texmaster View Post
    No she did not. She got married. A legally binding and PUBLIC certificate flaunting the policy she agreed to be under.
    This is a sticking point. Moreover, it's very far reaching! It's on par with saying that although a person was cleared of all charges from a legal incident from the past, because the records are now part of the public domain and someone got their hands on it and made the records avaliable to the military that the individual's privacy wasn't violated. Well, yes it was in a round-about way.

    Sgt. Newsome didn't tell the military of her sexual orientation nor did the military ask. That's essentially the agreement between military servicemen/women and the federal government - no direct acknowledgement on either side. It's the 3rd-party issue that's the big question. Nonetheless, it's the way the local police went about ratting out Sgt Newsome in their attempts to capture her partner that I have a problem with. As far as we know the Sgt had nothing to do with the crimes her partner committed. Therefore, IMO, she shouldn't have been made a victim unless there was evidence to either connect her with the thefts, it was known that she was an accessor thereof, or it if was clear she knew of the crimes and was harboring a fugitive. Unless and until any one of those aspects could have been proven, I really don't think the local police should have violated Sgt Newsome's privacy whether her marriage license was sitting on her kitchen table or if it was being sold on eBay.

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    Re: Lesbian sgt. discharged after police tell military

    Quote Originally Posted by obsequious View Post
    Either we live in an open society, with coed bathrooms... or we keep our sexuality private.


    I believe in privacy. I believe in the law protecting sed privacy.
    Separate bathrooms for men and women in the military is due to the 2 things
    1) that is the accepted norm in society
    2) having men and women share facilities would cause a whole lot of problems when you're talking about the size of units the military normally has sharing such facilities. There would be a huge rise in incidents of sexual harassment and possibly even sexual assault.

    What right do you have to a separation of facilities for heterosexuals and homosexuals? I've not heard of anyone actually doing this. And there are many, many jobs around the country where gays work openly with straight people, with no separate facilities.

    The fact that DADT is in place should tell you guys that there are gays in the military. And a guy looking at a guy naked does not prove that the first is gay. I heard most of the guys remark on other guys' penis size while I was in, and I'm pretty sure most of those guys weren't gay.

    The military is only looking into separate facilities to be prepared for critics who bring this up as an issue. They do not actually believe there needs to be such a division.

    And the fact that military members could serve openly after DADT is repealed does not mean that they will be required to share their sexuality with everyone. So how would you figure out who should go into these separate facilities? You would have to prove the person is gay first to ostracize them in such a way. And I don't see a lot of gay servicemembers coming out publicly if they think that it will just cause them to be ostracized from their unit. And I don't see the military wanting to spend a lot of money proving that someone is gay through an investigation just to spend more money to provide that person with separate berthing and heads.
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