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    Re: Lesbian sgt. discharged after police tell military

    Quote Originally Posted by texmaster View Post
    Right. So who taught early man this was the way to procreate?

    Who molded the male and female organs to allow for procreation between the two sexes?

    Please, go right ahead and explain it
    Again, your questions have NOTHING to do with YOU having to PROVE what YOU claimed when YOU said that heterosexuality was genetic. Let's see your SCIENTIFIC PROOF that it is genetic. The act of procreation is not proof that heterosexuality is genetic.

    You are only embarrassing yourself.

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    Re: Lesbian sgt. discharged after police tell military

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    This is why people should not post from ignorance.

    1) A law is not a military regulation. A military regulation is not a law. They are not the same thing.

    2) DADT is kinda like fitness standards. If your body fat exceeds a certain amount, and you do not get it down, you are in violation of the standard and be discharged.

    3) This part is slightly complicated(well, not to most people) so pay attention and do try and follow along. Under DADT if a command discovers a person is gay, a process starts. That process has to find 1 of 3 indicators to discharge a person. Those indicators are statements(saying "I am gay" to some one in the command...see note below on this), actions(getting caught having sex with some one of the same sex, all the way down to being seen holding hands with some one of the same sex...see note 2 below), and being married. If one of those indicators is found, then a discharge is indicated. No one is charged with anything, there is no NJP(Non Judicial Punishment), and usually the person is discharged honorably.

    Now, it should be clear to you that in fact, she committed no crime. Are you going to continue this insanely foolish argument?

    Note 1: Part of why DADT is such a bad policy is that it gives those looking to get out an easy way to do so. Back when I served, those who just wanted to get out would go UA(Unauthorized Absence) or do drugs till they got caught. The downside is this process was kinda slow, and during the process, life was not pleasant, being on restriction, extra duty, and so on. Now, if some one decides they don't want to be in the military, they just tell some one in their command "I am gay", and get a quick and easy out. This is, for a number of reasons, bad.
    Note 2: Oddly, going to a gay bar is considered one of the low risk activities for gays in the military. It's not against the rules, being there is not an indicator, and odds are no one else from the command will be there, except possibly other gays in the command. Going to a gay bar is less risky than going to the mall with your significant other for gays in the military.
    Let me sum this thread up....
    Outed, discharged, case closed....

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    Re: Lesbian sgt. discharged after police tell military

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    This is why people should not post from ignorance.

    1) A law is not a military regulation. A military regulation is not a law. They are not the same thing.

    2) DADT is kinda like fitness standards. If your body fat exceeds a certain amount, and you do not get it down, you are in violation of the standard and be discharged.
    I believe it's fair to say that it is illegal/against the law for her to be in the military - not sure whether she's "breaking the law" by being there, but the military sure would be breaking the law if they allowed her to stay knowing about her homosexuality.

    DADT is a policy that outlines how the law will be enforced -- the law being that people who engage in homosexuality (or claim to be homosexual) are not allowed in the military.
    Last edited by Taylor; 03-17-10 at 03:51 PM.

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    Re: Lesbian sgt. discharged after police tell military

    DADT is bad policy, but the cops weren't in the wrong here.

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    Re: Lesbian sgt. discharged after police tell military

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    Again, your questions have NOTHING to do with YOU having to PROVE what YOU claimed when YOU said that heterosexuality was genetic. Let's see your SCIENTIFIC PROOF that it is genetic. The act of procreation is not proof that heterosexuality is genetic.

    You are only embarrassing yourself.
    So you are telling us that the act of actually reproducing using the only natural method for humanity isn't genetic?

    Do you have any idea how stupid that sounds?
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    Re: Lesbian sgt. discharged after police tell military

    Quote Originally Posted by texmaster View Post
    So you are telling us that the act of actually reproducing using the only natural method for humanity isn't genetic?

    Do you have any idea how stupid that sounds?
    No, s/he is blinded by agenda.....

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    Re: Lesbian sgt. discharged after police tell military

    Quote Originally Posted by texmaster View Post
    So you are telling us that the act of actually reproducing using the only natural method for humanity isn't genetic?
    You claimed heterosexuality is genetic. The act of reproduction does not prove heterosexuality is genetic.

    I shouldn't be too hard on you though, you will learn this later on in school.

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    Re: Lesbian sgt. discharged after police tell military

    Quote Originally Posted by Partisan View Post
    No, s/he is blinded by agenda.....
    So you can prove heterosexuality is genetic?

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    Re: Lesbian sgt. discharged after police tell military

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    This is why people should not post from ignorance.
    Yet you post anyway.

    1) A law is not a military regulation. A military regulation is not a law. They are not the same thing.
    Ah I see we need to go back to the dictionary again with you:

    A rule of order having the force of law, prescribed by a superior or competent authority, relating to the actions of those under the authority's control... Regulations also function to ensure uniform application of the law.

    http://legal-dictionary.thefreedicti...com/regulation

    reg·u·la·tion (rěg'yə-lā'shən)
    n.

    A governmental order having the force of law.


    http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/regulation

    Once again Redress, the slightest bit of reserch on your part would save you so much embarrassment.

    2) DADT is kinda like fitness standards. If your body fat exceeds a certain amount, and you do not get it down, you are in violation of the standard and be discharged.
    Wrong as usual Redress and I just debunked it. Your spin doesn't change its meaning or enforcement power.

    3) This part is slightly complicated(well, not to most people) so pay attention and do try and follow along. Under DADT if a command discovers a person is gay, a process starts. That process has to find 1 of 3 indicators to discharge a person. Those indicators are statements(saying "I am gay" to some one in the command...see note below on this), actions(getting caught having sex with some one of the same sex, all the way down to being seen holding hands with some one of the same sex...see note 2 below), and being married. If one of those indicators is found, then a discharge is indicated. No one is charged with anything, there is no NJP(Non Judicial Punishment), and usually the person is discharged honorably.
    Actually I understand it quite well. I wish you would stop speaking out of both sides of your face on this.

    The very fact you ducked your own words which I directly quoted from you says a great deal about your ability to confront your own mistakes.

    Now, it should be clear to you that in fact, she committed no crime. Are you going to continue this insanely foolish argument?
    LOL I'm still trying to figure out how you can be so incredibly hypocritical but admit she did commit a violation of the oath she swore to? How do you do that?

    Note 1: Part of why DADT is such a bad policy is that it gives those looking to get out an easy way to do so. Back when I served, those who just wanted to get out would go UA(Unauthorized Absence) or do drugs till they got caught. The downside is this process was kinda slow, and during the process, life was not pleasant, being on restriction, extra duty, and so on. Now, if some one decides they don't want to be in the military, they just tell some one in their command "I am gay", and get a quick and easy out. This is, for a number of reasons, bad.
    Your opinion is noted. It doesn't change the fact she violated her oath. End of story.

    Note 2: Oddly, going to a gay bar is considered one of the low risk activities for gays in the military. It's not against the rules, being there is not an indicator, and odds are no one else from the command will be there, except possibly other gays in the command. Going to a gay bar is less risky than going to the mall with your significant other for gays in the military.
    Again more opinion not fact.


    Let's break it down even more simply.

    She took an oath. She violated the regulation which as my definition proves has the force of a LAW and she was booted out when she was discovered.

    Your pathetic attempt at claiming because no one caught her in the act means she didn't violate the regulation is beyond petty and simply proves you have no capacity to admit when you are wrong.

    And you proved that in spades when you ducked your own words which I quoted word for word.
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    Re: Lesbian sgt. discharged after police tell military

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    You claimed heterosexuality is genetic. The act of reproduction does not prove heterosexuality is genetic.
    Are you ever going to support this ridiculous claim?

    How can you separate the two? Explain your BS
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