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Georgia Considers Outlawing Abortions Based on Race, Gender

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Georgia lawmakers are poised to take up a controversial bill that would outlaw abortions prompted by the baby's race or gender, an issue that has inspired a billboard campaign claiming a racial conspiracy is behind the termination of pregnancies.



In this photo made Thursday, Feb. 11, 2010, an anti-abortion billboard is shown in Atlanta. The eyebrow-raising ads featuring a young black child are an effort by the anti-abortion movement to use race to rally support within the black community. (AP)

Are health care providers using abortion to curb the growth of the U.S. black population?

That question will be at heart of a debate among Georgia lawmakers, who are poised to take up a controversial bill that would outlaw abortions prompted by the baby's race or gender.

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http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2010/03/12/georgia-considers-outlawing-abortion-based-race-gender/


Personally, I think the conspiracy-theory aspects of this are bunk. I also feel sure the law, if passed, would be challenged as a violation of the Roe V. Wade ruling.
 
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So that's an interesting twist.

Liberals are trying to keep the minority population down with abortion?

Perhaps those numbers are skewed because of more irresponsibility among a certain sector of the population regarding indiscriminate sex with no protection out of wedlock. Ya think?
 
So republicans are using race baiting to push unconstitutional bills now? Looks like the democrats lost their monopoly on that particularly scummy tactic.
 
rathi said:
So republicans are using race baiting to push unconstitutional bills now? Looks like the democrats lost their monopoly on that particularly scummy tactic.
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No comment on the black legislators who believe that there really is a conspiracy to reduce the black population?
 
Erod said:
So that's an interesting twist.

Liberals are trying to keep the minority population down with abortion?

Perhaps those numbers are skewed because of more irresponsibility among a certain sector of the population regarding indiscriminate sex with no protection out of wedlock. Ya think?
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Remember when those planned parenthood clinics were busted when the pro lifers went under cover and said they wanted to donate money specifically to go against African American abortions? Thats probably what they are building on.

Video here:

http://www.wnd.com/index.php?pageId=118457
 
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Erod said:
So that's an interesting twist.

Liberals are trying to keep the minority population down with abortion?

Perhaps those numbers are skewed because of more irresponsibility among a certain sector of the population regarding indiscriminate sex with no protection out of wedlock. Ya think?
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How exactly did you come to the conclusion that it's THOSE SCARY LIBERALS who are trying to keep the minority population down?

And yes, I concur that a higher rate of abortion is probably due to weaker sex education and lack of proper birth control. How exactly would "healthcare providers" have a conspiracy to abort black children anyway? It's not like they go out and look for pregnant women to jab with a coathanger. They have a clinic that people come in to. If they turned away white women, maybe you'd have an argument.

Of course abortion clinics would mostly be in urban areas. That's where the demand is.
 
texmaster said:
Remember when those planned parenthood clinics were busted when the pro lifers went under cover and said they wanted to donate money specifically to go against African American abortions? Thats probably what they are building on.

Video here:

Planned Parenthood advises: 'That's not a baby'
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Do you remember when that happened? Cause I don't even remember FOX News reporting this. I wonder why? Can you bring up a reliable source other than World Nut Daily for this please? Maybe from an actual news source? Like FOX? Much appreciated.
 
Erod said:
So that's an interesting twist.

Liberals are trying to keep the minority population down with abortion?
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I smell another Glenn Beck special show!!!

Perhaps those numbers are skewed because of more irresponsibility among a certain sector of the population regarding indiscriminate sex with no protection out of wedlock. Ya think?
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White trailer trash? Because those plump chicks on Jerry Springer, they don't seem too responsible?
 
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rathi said:
So republicans are using race baiting to push unconstitutional bills now? Looks like the democrats lost their monopoly on that particularly scummy tactic.
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Explain the unconstitutionality of Republican bills.
 
This is just another smoke screen workaround to try and ban abortion. It'll be shot down by Roe v Wade.

A woman can seek an abortion for any reason she wants as long as it's within the acceptable termination period.
 
hazlnut said:
I smell another Glenn Beck special show!!!



White trailer trash? Because those plump chicks on Jerry Springer, they don't seem to responsible?
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I smell an elitist attitude.
 
A few questions

How are they going to know if the abortion is based on race?


I can see a doctor questioning the abortion is being sought if the mother is white and the father is black and the mothers father is a member of the KKK (or something similar)

But if the mother and father are both black or white I cant see it being a racialy sought abortion

As for gender, this would be common in some asian cultures. South Asia (ie India) sees this alot. Abortions of female fetus's are quite common as male childern are generally wanted


Now as for why abortion clinics are generally in the inner city and in poorer areas.

How about zoning issues

I dont think many rich suburbs want to have abortion clinics in their community and fight tooth and nail to keep them out, (like most do for strip clubs) leaving area's that do not have much political power as the places they will be put up
 
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No comment on the black legislators who believe that there really is a conspiracy to reduce the black population?
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I hoped it was obvious they were morons.
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Explain the unconstitutionality of Republican bills.
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I was mentioning this specific bill, which is a laughably transparent attempt to prevent abortions.
 
Lord Tammerlain said:
How are they going to know if the abortion is based on race?
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If no one has explicitly said so, then they can only make assumptions. If the doctor 'suspects' abortion for racial purposes, then they can call it off. 'Suspects' could mean anything. This is just a workaround to delay abortions.

Lord Tammerlain said:
As for gender, this would be common in some asian cultures. South Asia (ie India) sees this alot. Abortions of female fetus's are quite common as male childern are generally wanted
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It doesn't matter what the reason is. Under Roe v Wade the woman has a right to abort. This law is just another challenge to the status quo that will be shot down. In the mean time, the law will stand while the litigation takes place, and perhaps hundreds of women will be denied abortions for the interim. That is basically the strategy of southern states these days.
 
jamesrage said:
I like it. I do not see how it can be enforced, but if they can find a way to enforce it and inconvenience abortionist then I say good.
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That's what your entire movement has boiled down to: let's think of far-fetched ways in which we can temporarily inconvenience an abortionist. Who cares how utterly deranged we make ourselves look, in the process.

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You have not stopped even one abortion from happening, and you've probably pushed numerous women who were on the fence into deciding to end their pregnancies.
 
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1069 said:
That's what your entire movement has boiled down to: let's think of far-fetched ways in which we can temporarily inconvenience an abortionist. Who cares how utterly deranged we make ourselves look, in the process.

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Liberals and corrupt governments are not the only ones who use incrementation. A little law there that bans abortions based on gender another law requiring waiting periods, another law that bans the transport of minors without parental consent to get an abortion, another law restricts where an abortion clinic can be built, another law that bans late term abortions, maybe another law restricting who give perform an abortion and a few other laws that restrict abortion or some type of abortion.All that adds up.




You have not stopped even one abortion from happening, and you've probably pushed numerous women who were on the fence into deciding to end their pregnancies.
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If they are sitting there contemplating on whether or not they want to go through with the pregnancy then they are not anti-Abortion.So I am not worried about winning those people over.
 
Huh. A lot of these anti-abortion laws lately are taking on a similar hue in that it rests upon the opinion of the prosecutor to know if the would-be law were broken or not. For example, how can anyone know if the woman deliberately harmed herself to abort, and in this case how can anyone know if the woman is seeking an abortion because of the baby's race or gender?

Anti-abortion people can claim that "at least it inconveniences people trying to get abortions," but as far as I can tell the only ones who are getting inconvenienced are themselves by wasting their own time. By trying to enact laws that are so vague and retarded they're guaranteeing they'll never be passed, and even if they are they would instantly be ruled unconstitutional. Good...job?

The whole thing seems like more of a glorified photo op than anything.
 
This bill is all for show and will go nowhere.

Nonetheless, the abortion rate among blacks is such that more black babies are aborted each year than are born... it's worth noting that only way the party in power wishes to address this problem is to try to secure public funding to facilitate the process.
 
Taylor said:
This bill is all for show and will go nowhere.

Nonetheless, the abortion rate among blacks is such that more black babies are aborted each year than are born... it's worth noting that only way the party in power wishes to address this problem is to try to secure public funding to facilitate the process.
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I believe the point of the proposed law was to outlaw abortions done because of race or gender. So how do you know that the abortions of black babies mentioned above were carried out because of their race? You seem to be going off on a tangent or creating an entirely new red herring by bringing up a threat of demographics.
 
Cardinal said:
I believe the point of the proposed law was to outlaw abortions done because of race or gender. So how do you know that the abortions of black babies mentioned above were carried out because of their race? You seem to be going off on a tangent or creating an entirely new red herring by bringing up a threat of demographics.
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Read the first line of my post.
 
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