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Georgia Considers Outlawing Abortions Based on Race, Gender

Cardinal said:
Maybe it would help if we backed up and you clarified your point.
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1. Yes there is a problem (abortion rate among blacks)
2. This bill does little to address that problem - its purpose is to seed distrust, anger, conspiracy theories, or whatever vs. dems or their associated political partners
3. Debunking the conspiracy theory doesn't change the fact that there is a problem, and that little is being done to address the problem - in fact our efforts are not aimed at reducing the number of abortions, but making sure people who want them can get them using taxpayer money.
 
Taylor said:
1. Yes there is a problem (abortion rate among blacks)
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Well, there's a poverty problem, caused by a cycle of unstable households and single mothers, and lack of proper education (and respect for education) thus perpetuating poverty. (And of course there's that whole drug thing). Whether or not you agree that abortion is amoral, it does help to break one of those cycles. Is a pregnant teenager more or less likely to go on to better herself in education and develop a career?

Taylor said:
2. This bill does little to address that problem - its purpose is to seed distrust, anger, conspiracy theories, or whatever vs. dems or their associated political partners
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That's for sure.

Taylor said:
3. Debunking the conspiracy theory doesn't change the fact that there is a problem, and that little is being done to address the problem - in fact our efforts are not aimed at reducing the number of abortions, but making sure people who want them can get them using taxpayer money.
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I agree that there is a problem, but I think you're focusing on the symptoms and not any of the root causes. Focusing on the "problem" of abortions is like blaming a doctor for always putting band aids on a patient and not on the fact that the patient trips and falls a lot. And I really don't see how the cycle of poverty of poor blacks are going to be helped by having the option of abortions removed.
 
Cardinal said:
I agree that there is a problem, but I think you're focusing on the symptoms and not any of the root causes. Focusing on the "problem" of abortions is like blaming a doctor for always putting band aids on a patient and not on the fact that the patient trips and falls a lot. And I really don't see how the cycle of poverty of poor blacks are going to be helped by having the option of abortions removed.
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I merely underscored the existence of a problem, regardless of the outcome of the Georgia bill. Focusing on the problem is analogous to a doctor's diagnosis. A "band aid" would suggest I proposed a solution (which I did not). It's worth knowing what you're up against before you reach for the band-aid tin.

Although the abortion rate is certainly correlated with poverty, I'll point out that the rate of abortion among blacks is significantly higher in every income bracket (other than the lowest). Clearly there is more to the equation.
 
Deuce said:
And yes, I concur that a higher rate of abortion is probably due to weaker sex education and lack of proper birth control.
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So... the black people I went to school with had a weaker sex education than me?

Or are you asserting that my sex education was poor? Cause I am bewildered by this statement.
 
Taylor said:
I merely underscored the existence of a problem, regardless of the outcome of the Georgia bill. Focusing on the problem is analogous to a doctor's diagnosis. A "band aid" would suggest I proposed a solution (which I did not). It's worth knowing what you're up against before you reach for the band-aid tin.

Although the abortion rate is certainly correlated with poverty, I'll point out that the rate of abortion among blacks is significantly higher in every income bracket (other than the lowest). Clearly there is more to the equation.
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Clearly. I guess if I suggest a presumption of entitlement and cultural disregard for denial of impulse control I will be branded a bigot of one flavor or another.

So let it be written, so let it be done.

I prefer to address the problem, which cultures outside of "the black community" have not inflicted upon it.
 
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