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    Re: Pay raise sought for bilingual fed workers

    Quote Originally Posted by Catz Part Deux View Post
    It's an additional, valuable skill.
    Not if it's not part of their job.
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    Re: Pay raise sought for bilingual fed workers

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    Not if it's not part of their job.
    That's specified in the bill.

    " ... if he or she is required to use languages other than English at work ... "

    If a particular skill over and above the norm is required to do their job, then they should be paid for it.
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    Re: Pay raise sought for bilingual fed workers

    Quote Originally Posted by 1069 View Post
    Fortunately, that's not how they feel.
    It's their responsibility to save as many lives as they can.
    That's why they risk theirs daily.
    That's why they take Spanish classes and learn to communicate with members of the community they serve.
    And that's why they get pay raises for doing so: because their communities appreciate the effort.
    If I am bilingual in german, but live in a southwest town, would I qualify? I am infact bilingual. It just might not be the most common second language?
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    Re: Pay raise sought for bilingual fed workers

    Quote Originally Posted by Manc Skipper View Post
    That's specified in the bill.

    " ... if he or she is required to use languages other than English at work ... "

    If a particular skill over and above the norm is required to do their job, then they should be paid for it.
    then it would be part of the job description. Classifiers would grade it out accordingly. No new bill is required.
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    Re: Pay raise sought for bilingual fed workers

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    Federal workers should not get a pay raise for being bi-lingual.It does not encourage immigrants and illegals to learn English.


    Washington Times - Pay raise sought for bilingual fed workers

    A key member of Congress says federal workers should be paid more for using their bilingual skills at work, and he's introduced a bill to boost those folks' pay by 5 percent.

    Rep. Michael M. Honda, California Democrat and chairman of the Congressional Asian Pacific American Caucus, said those bilingual workers deserve to be rewarded for their extra skills - something the government doesn't regularly do right now.

    "I understand the difficulties that immigrants face communicating in English while they acquire fluency," Mr. Honda said. "The bill addresses these challenges by promoting the use of bilingual skills throughout the federal work force in order to better serve the public and accomplish the mission of federal agencies."

    It's unclear whether the bill will get any traction, particularly with Congress working on so many other issues, though it could pop up as part of a broader immigration debate.

    Mr. Honda's bill would boost a federal employee's base pay by 5 percent if he or she is required to use languages other than English at work, but who get paid the same as other federal workers who hold similar jobs but do not have bilingual skills.

    K.C. McAlpin, executive director of ProEnglish, said the bill amounts to taxpayers subsidizing multilingual government. He said polls repeatedly show Americans oppose that and instead want English to be the official language.

    "At a time when the federal government has racked up a $12.5 trillion debt, Rep. Honda's legislation has to rank as one of the most irresponsible bills ever introduced in Congress," he said.
    I like the idea. These folks already have to use another language, so if they can speak it fluently instead of relying on a pocket guide, it seems they're earning their money. I know the military gives a token kicker to soldiers who can speak a second language while in those respective regions, so it seems there's some precedent for this.

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    Re: Pay raise sought for bilingual fed workers

    Quote Originally Posted by mike2810 View Post
    If I am bilingual in german, but live in a southwest town, would I qualify? I am infact bilingual. It just might not be the most common second language?
    In the fire department in my city, "spanish/english translation" (ie, bilingualism in Spanish and English) is considered a "specialty skill", and bilingual firefighters receive an extra $150 per month in "specialty skill pay".
    Bilingualism in other languages may be useful, but firefighters bilingual in other languages do not receive any extra pay.

    My county is 30% hispanic; 22.3% of residents speak Spanish as their primary language at home.
    Of that 22.3%, 54% speak English very well, 17% speak English well, 18% speak English not well, and 11% don't speak English at all.

    So, when the fire department hires Spanish/English bilinguals, they are actually acquiring someone with a very useful skill that will be used on a daily basis in saving lives.

    I do not believe we have enough residents that speak languages other than Spanish or English to make bilingualism in other languages crucial.

    In another place, where there were a large population of non-English-speaking Germans, your skill might very well be worth money to the community.
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    Re: Pay raise sought for bilingual fed workers

    Quote Originally Posted by 1069 View Post
    In the fire department in my city, "spanish/english translation" (ie, bilingualism in Spanish and English) is considered a "specialty skill", and bilingual firefighters receive an extra $150 per month is "specialty skill pay".
    Bilingualism in other languages may be useful, but firefighters bilingual in other languages do not receive any extra pay.

    My county is 30% hispanic; 22.3% of residents speak Spanish as their primary language at home.
    Of that 22.3%, 54% speak English very well, 17% speak English well, 18% speak English not well, and 11% don't speak English at all.

    So, when the fire department hires Spanish/English bilinguals, they are actually acquiring someone with a very useful skill that will be used on a daily basis in saving lives.

    I do not believe we have enough residents that speak languages other than Spanish or English to make bilingualism in other languages crucial.

    In another place, where there were a large population of non-English-speaking Germans, your skill might very well be worth money to the community.
    What county is this, Jalisco?.....
    Seriously, what county?......

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    Re: Pay raise sought for bilingual fed workers

    Quote Originally Posted by Partisan View Post
    What county is this, Jalisco?.....
    Seriously, what county?......
    I live in one of the whitest- if not the whitest- counties in a border state.
    I will PM you the name of the county, and a link to a fact page which contains information on the ethnic and language demographics of my county.
    I will also PM this to anyone else who is interested.
    I do not care to reveal my exact location on the public board.

    * edit: PM sent.
    Last edited by 1069; 03-13-10 at 01:16 PM.

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    Re: Pay raise sought for bilingual fed workers

    Thanks for the info.....
    That said, I don't think any accomodations should be made for non-english speakers, period......
    Half of them are here illegally & the other half are anchor babies...
    The only bilingual federal employees that should get paid extra are ICE agents, so they know exactly where to ship the illegal dirtbags back to......

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    Re: Pay raise sought for bilingual fed workers

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    Federal workers should not get a pay raise for being bi-lingual.It does not encourage immigrants and illegals to learn English.
    Do you own a business? If you have what you have stated is quite ridiculous and you should know this.
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