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    Re: Court upholds 'under God' in Pledge of Allegiance

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    I have heard Red say this many times and it says it all...........
    Totally off topic, but hey...

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    Re: Court upholds 'under God' in Pledge of Allegiance

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    One for the good guys!!!!!!!
    Navy, people who disagree with you on something like this aren't "bad guys", they don't have evil intent. They're not twirling their mustaches while tying young girls to train tracks. They just have a difference of opinion on how things should be done. You know, where two people legitimately disagree on something, but both have the best of intentions?
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    Re: Court upholds 'under God' in Pledge of Allegiance

    The "under god" part is just a platitude. I don't think most people take it that seriously anymore, except maybe the atheists.

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    Re: Court upholds 'under God' in Pledge of Allegiance

    Quote Originally Posted by Travelsonic View Post
    By using the capitalized "God" you actually are referring to a specific god - the Christian god.


    Capitalization


    The Holy Observer: THO Guide to Christian Capitalization

    Also the fact that the whole reason for adding "under God" in 1954 was spiritual / religions as well as political - during the Red Scare it was added to separate ourselves from the "godless" communists:


    "Under God"--A Product of the 1950's Red Scare


    Me thinks those quick to dismiss this as nonsensical need to read a bit more between the lines.
    Completely inaccurate. I am Jewish and we also capitalize GOD.
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    This is what I hate about politics the most, it turns people in snobbish egotistical self righteous dicks who allow their political beliefs, partisan attitudes, and 'us vs. them' mentality, to force them to deny reality.

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    Had you been born elsewhere or at a different time you may very well have chosen a different belief system.
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    Re: Court upholds 'under God' in Pledge of Allegiance

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainCourtesy View Post
    Completely inaccurate. I am Jewish and we also capitalize GOD.
    well its the same god
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    Where the moon is glued to a picture of heaven
    And all the little pigs have God

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    Re: Court upholds 'under God' in Pledge of Allegiance

    Quote Originally Posted by spud_meister View Post
    well its the same god
    But it does not designate any specific religion. That was HIS argument.
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    This is what I hate about politics the most, it turns people in snobbish egotistical self righteous dicks who allow their political beliefs, partisan attitudes, and 'us vs. them' mentality, to force them to deny reality.

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    Re: Court upholds 'under God' in Pledge of Allegiance

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainCourtesy View Post
    But it does not designate any specific religion. That was HIS argument.
    ah, fair enough
    So follow me into the desert
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    Where the moon is glued to a picture of heaven
    And all the little pigs have God

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    Re: Court upholds 'under God' in Pledge of Allegiance

    I have no problem with the words 'in god' being in the pledge as long as everyone realizes that it's okay not to say the pledge if you don't want to.
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    Re: Court upholds 'under God' in Pledge of Allegiance

    One other fun bit of trivia re: the Pledge adding "under God" in the 1950's.

    Our official national anthem (since long before McCarthy set foot in office) is the Star Spangled Banner. While everyone knows the first verse, few know the second, third, or fourth. The fourth verse is as follows:

    O! thus be it ever, when freemen shall stand
    Between their loved home and the war's desolation!
    Blest with victory and peace, may the heav'n rescued land
    Praise the Power that hath made and preserved us a nation.
    Then conquer we must, when our cause it is just,
    And this be our motto: 'In God is our trust.'
    And the star-spangled banner in triumph shall wave
    er the land of the free and the home of the brave!
    People sleep peaceably in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf.

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    Re: Court upholds 'under God' in Pledge of Allegiance

    Quote Originally Posted by DarkWizard12 View Post
    If "under god" in the pledge is indoctrination, it sure is a piss poor one. Even the UK, which is way more liberal than us, sings "God save the Queen." They get 4 versus of that, we only get 2 words in our pledge....yea, we are soooo indoctrinating people.
    The UK has a state religion (Church of England) of which the Monarch is head. The Monarch is not ellected, they are ordained supposedly by god through birthright. The Coronation ceremony takes place in Westminister Abby, and is performed by the Archbishop of Canterbury.

    God is inherrent in the system. And there is no official seperation of church and state.

    One only swears alligence to the Crown when you take office in the military most common, or in high public office.

    As you can see, it's a totally different kettle of fish.

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