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    Re: Court upholds 'under God' in Pledge of Allegiance

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    Our Creator wasn't a Christian God?

    This is disconcerting.

    What God is responsible for our endowed rights then?
    Since there are no "endowed" rights, no one.
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    Re: Court upholds 'under God' in Pledge of Allegiance

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    Really? What part of the constitution says that? If something isn't the mentioned in the constitution, it is not a violation of constitutional rights? That sounds pretty weak. Illegal wiretaps violate constitutional rights. Nothing about wiretaps in the constitution.
    This almost sounds like one of those endless paradoxes, like "every thing I say is a lie".
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    Re: Court upholds 'under God' in Pledge of Allegiance

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    Really? What part of the constitution says that? If something isn't the mentioned in the constitution, it is not a violation of constitutional rights? That sounds pretty weak. Illegal wiretaps violate constitutional rights. Nothing about wiretaps in the constitution.
    The public option isn't mentioned in the Constitution. According to your logic that makes it unconstitutional.
    If you expect people to be rational, you aren't being rational.

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    Re: Court upholds 'under God' in Pledge of Allegiance

    Quote Originally Posted by mpg View Post
    The public option isn't mentioned in the Constitution. According to your logic that makes it unconstitutional.
    The formation of the Libertarian Party is not mentioned, specifically, in the Constitution. I suppose that makes that unconstitutional, too.

    Come on guys, this is a silly argument.
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    Re: Court upholds 'under God' in Pledge of Allegiance

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    Really? What part of the constitution says that? If something isn't the mentioned in the constitution, it is not a violation of constitutional rights? That sounds pretty weak. Illegal wiretaps violate constitutional rights. Nothing about wiretaps in the constitution.
    The reason wiretaps are unconstitutional is they violate the fourth amendment if the agency doing the tapping does not get a warrant. If they get a warrant, I have no problem with it.
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    Re: Court upholds 'under God' in Pledge of Allegiance

    Quote Originally Posted by mpg View Post
    So you agree then?
    Yes, I agree that there is nothing in the Constitution that says generalization about things in the Constitution is permissible.

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    Re: Court upholds 'under God' in Pledge of Allegiance

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    Really? What part of the constitution says that? If something isn't the mentioned in the constitution, it is not a violation of constitutional rights? That sounds pretty weak. Illegal wiretaps violate constitutional rights. Nothing about wiretaps in the constitution.
    Don't be obtuse.

    The Constitution limits government power, but that doesn't mean every single possible thing that could happen in a million years will be in there.

    If it's not prohibited, then it's allowable. Any lawyer, judge, or person who has read anything about the Constitution will tell you that, no matter what their political persuasion. (The arguments come over the details about whether the Constitution does prohibit something or not.)

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    Re: Court upholds 'under God' in Pledge of Allegiance

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    Good guys....HA.

    I don't have a problem with the "under God" part of the Allegiance even though it wasn't inserted into the pledge till much later. But I do think that the majority opinion that the Pledge is somehow a uniting force is complete BS. It's a dumb ass thing you have to say as a kid and if you really analyze it is rather fascist. I don't pledge allegiance to the flag. The government damned well pledge allegiance to me and hold up my rights; otherwise it's my right and duty to get rid of it.
    Yet you ramble on knowing this country allows you to damn it. Perhaps that priviledge is short lived and the future does not belong to those who bend over backwards to find anything and everything wrong with America.
    It's nothing more than X's and O's.

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    Re: Court upholds 'under God' in Pledge of Allegiance

    Quote Originally Posted by megaprogman View Post
    The reason wiretaps are unconstitutional is they violate the fourth amendment if the agency doing the tapping does not get a warrant. If they get a warrant, I have no problem with it.
    Wiretaps are not unconstitutional.
    It's nothing more than X's and O's.

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    Re: Court upholds 'under God' in Pledge of Allegiance

    Quote Originally Posted by rhinefire View Post
    Yet you ramble on knowing this country allows you to damn it. Perhaps that priviledge is short lived and the future does not belong to those who bend over backwards to find anything and everything wrong with America.
    That is not a priviledge. It is a right. See the First Amendment.

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