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    Re: Court upholds 'under God' in Pledge of Allegiance

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    Re: Court upholds 'under God' in Pledge of Allegiance

    Frankly I think we should add 'God' a few more times just to piss off the other side.
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    Re: Court upholds 'under God' in Pledge of Allegiance

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    Please tell me specifically which specific religion that "under god" establishes nor how the VOLUNTARY line of a VOLUNTARY pledge prohibits the free exercise of any other religion.

    Also, are you one to believe that atheism or agnosticism is technically a religion? As it seems to be that members of those groups seem to differ in the notion of whether or not they should be considered a religion
    Our Constitution prevents the government from endorsing religion. ANY religion. ALL religion.

    It's pretty darn clear. Even when courts address this issue, they acknowledge that the pledge and the mention of God on coins violates the Constitution, but then they say it's a "de minimis" violation. In other words, they thumb the nose at nonbelievers and say, just like you are, "Screw you, it's minor, your views don't matter."

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    Re: Court upholds 'under God' in Pledge of Allegiance

    By placing "Under God" in the pledge of allegiance and "In God we trust" on money, the government may not be endorsing a specific religion, but it is endorsing that a god(s) at the very least exists. That is religious in nature and is not supposed to be a function of the government.

    That being said, I just can't bring myself to give a **** about it. I don't say the pledge and I could really care less what is on my money as long as I can use it.

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    Re: Court upholds 'under God' in Pledge of Allegiance

    Quote Originally Posted by mpg View Post
    Perhaps you can show me which part of the Constitution prohibits generic references to God in the POA.
    I asked first.

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    Re: Court upholds 'under God' in Pledge of Allegiance

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    I guess you missed the part where the teacher was punished AND missed the point where I said that the cases of teachers WRONGFULLY forcing people to do it should be dealt with in your zealous attempt at hyper partisan bloviating.

    That was a case of a teacher WRONGFULLY forcing a student to doing it and instead of blaming the pledge on something the teacher did wrong they instead blamed the teacher...which was the proper action to take.

    If I wrongfully shoot you should I be punished or should we change the way the gun functions?

    If I use my speech to insight a riot should we remove our right to speech or should we punish me for insighting a riot?

    If I restrict your right to protest by threatening you with a club should be ban clubs or should we punish me for infringing upon your rights?
    And what was my comment again?

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    Re: Court upholds 'under God' in Pledge of Allegiance

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    Frankly I think we should add 'God' a few more times just to piss off the other side.
    That's the kind of thing I heard a troll say.

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    Re: Court upholds 'under God' in Pledge of Allegiance

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    By placing "Under God" in the pledge of allegiance and "In God we trust" on money, the government may not be endorsing a specific religion, but it is endorsing that a god(s) at the very least exists. That is religious in nature and is not supposed to be a function of the government.

    That being said, I just can't bring myself to give a **** about it. I don't say the pledge and I could really care less what is on my money as long as I can use it.
    And it's apathy that allows these things to continue which in turn prevents Christianity, Judaism and Islam from loosing more control and eventually joining the ranks of the Greek Pantheon, et.al.

    Thanks a lot.

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    Re: Court upholds 'under God' in Pledge of Allegiance

    THIS HAS ALREADY BEEN SETTLED. The court cases have all said that it is technically a violation of the establishment clause, just like having a prayer in Congress or "In God We Trust" on coins or "So help you God" in a court swearing ceremony and so on.

    However, the cases mostly say (in layman's terms) "big deal".

    To claim that is not technically a violation of the 1st amendment is ridiculous. It's about as clear as can be. Once more, even the courts agree it is a technical violation.

    But they don't care. After all, who gives a damn what a bunch of godless atheists think?

    Apparently certain people here on this Board only care about the strict reading Constitution when it has to do with the 2nd amendment.

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    Re: Court upholds 'under God' in Pledge of Allegiance

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    Frankly I think we should add 'God' a few more times just to piss off the other side.
    Even where it isn't appropriate!

    "I pledge God, to the God, of the God God of America..."

    "One God, under God..."
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    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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