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    Re: Court upholds 'under God' in Pledge of Allegiance

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    Most real Christians do not consider the Muslim God and the Christian God to be the same.
    Oh, this should be good. Are there any other criteria to qualify as a "real Christian" or is that the only thing?

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    Re: Court upholds 'under God' in Pledge of Allegiance

    Quote Originally Posted by mpg View Post
    the Constitution
    No it doesn't. Any other source?

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    Re: Court upholds 'under God' in Pledge of Allegiance

    Quote Originally Posted by NoJingoLingo View Post
    No it doesn't. Any other source?
    Perhaps you can show me which part of the Constitution prohibits generic references to God in the POA.
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    Re: Court upholds 'under God' in Pledge of Allegiance

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    Oh?

    So please enlighten me the specific religion it establishes as a State Religion or how it prohibits the free expression of individuals religion?

    I'm clueless apparently. Please give me a clue.
    You are indeed, glad you acknowledge it.

    Apparently it never occurs to you that the Constitution has a part called the "establishment" clause, and that ANY endorsement of religion -- even a nondenominational one -- would violate that clause.

    It never occurs to you that there are nonbelievers in America too, apparently.

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    Re: Court upholds 'under God' in Pledge of Allegiance

    Quote Originally Posted by NoJingoLingo View Post
    I guess you missed the link to the story of a child being FORCED to recite it or be thrown out of class.
    I guess you missed the part where the teacher was punished AND missed the point where I said that the cases of teachers WRONGFULLY forcing people to do it should be dealt with in your zealous attempt at hyper partisan bloviating.

    That was a case of a teacher WRONGFULLY forcing a student to doing it and instead of blaming the pledge on something the teacher did wrong they instead blamed the teacher...which was the proper action to take.

    If I wrongfully shoot you should I be punished or should we change the way the gun functions?

    If I use my speech to insight a riot should we remove our right to speech or should we punish me for insighting a riot?

    If I restrict your right to protest by threatening you with a club should be ban clubs or should we punish me for infringing upon your rights?

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    Re: Court upholds 'under God' in Pledge of Allegiance

    Quote Originally Posted by Groucho View Post
    You are indeed, glad you acknowledge it.

    Apparently it never occurs to you that the Constitution has a part called the "establishment" clause, and that ANY endorsement of religion -- even a nondenominational one -- would violate that clause.

    It never occurs to you that there are nonbelievers in America too, apparently.

    Please tell me specifically which specific religion that "under god" establishes nor how the VOLUNTARY line of a VOLUNTARY pledge prohibits the free exercise of any other religion.

    Also, are you one to believe that atheism or agnosticism is technically a religion? As it seems to be that members of those groups seem to differ in the notion of whether or not they should be considered a religion

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    Re: Court upholds 'under God' in Pledge of Allegiance

    Quote Originally Posted by The Mark View Post
    Sorry NP, but I had to change it, because as you are aware, "good" is subjective.

    Edit: Plus, I got to use this cool stikethrough code...

    One for the good guys!!!!!!!


    I apologize for fitting this in here but So much for you changing someone elses post my left wing friend...
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    Re: Court upholds 'under God' in Pledge of Allegiance

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    There are more Christians than any other religion, so we win.
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    Re: Court upholds 'under God' in Pledge of Allegiance

    Our Creator wasn't a Christian God?

    This is disconcerting.

    What God is responsible for our endowed rights then?
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    Re: Court upholds 'under God' in Pledge of Allegiance

    Quote Originally Posted by Charles Martel View Post
    Our Creator wasn't a Christian God?

    This is disconcerting.

    What God is responsible for our endowed rights then?
    To me it's the Father in Heaven.
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