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Lesbian teen back at Miss. school after prom flap

Me too, as long as they don't act flaming or force me to witness PDA.....:2sick1:

FORCE you? Wait... you mean that homosexuals grab you, and make your eyes stay open ala Alex from "A Clockwork Orange" while they engage in PDA? :roll::roll::roll:
 
Here's a hint: Heterosexuality is a proven genetic trait. It even explains why you are here :rofl

That is a complete BS falsehood. Heterosexuality is a sexual orientation like homosexuality. If one is genetic, they both are. Since there is no evidence that sexual orientation is definitively formed from genetics (the causes are a mix of genetics, biology, and social factors) your comment is completely invalid.
 
How do we procreate Redress? Is it man and man, woman and woman or man and woman?

My God how pathetic is it for you to pretend sex ed 101 never existed?


Yeah Redress! That stupid thing that allows our species and MILLIONS of other species on our planet procreate is really an inconvenient truth for you isn't it?

Congratulations. You just proved a few things. You proved you know how folks procreate. You proved that it has nothing to do with genetics. You proved that you don't know what "genetic cause" means. And you proved that you don't don't understand the nature of sexual orientation.

Quite a feat for one post.
 
Oh Redress, you are beyond hope if you can't even admit that heterosexuality is required to propagate the species and millions of other species on this planet.


You've gone off the deep end my friend.

And you have continued to prove that you do not know the difference between procreation (a behavior) and a genetic cause. Let us know when you do.
 
Congratulations. You just proved a few things. You proved you know how folks procreate. You proved that it has nothing to do with genetics. You proved that you don't know what "genetic cause" means. And you proved that you don't don't understand the nature of sexual orientation.

Quite a feat for one post.

And he proved he is not learning from all the information presented to him. This is not the first time around for him on the topic of gays.
 
Some do chose to be gay.....There are documented cases of them doing so that have been posted here in DP a thousand times.........You don't chose to be black........A race of people and a class of people there is a huge difference........

And every time those "cases" get documented, I destroy them.
 
That is a complete BS falsehood. Heterosexuality is a sexual orientation like homosexuality. If one is genetic, they both are. Since there is no evidence that sexual orientation is definitively formed from genetics (the causes are a mix of genetics, biology, and social factors) your comment is completely invalid.

homosexual behavior could be turned on and off by altering glutamatergic transmission pharmacologically and/or genetically.


Apparently they can switch it on or off like a light within a couple of hours.


Interesting.
 
homosexual behavior could be turned on and off by altering glutamatergic transmission pharmacologically and/or genetically.


Apparently they can switch it on or off like a light within a couple of hours.


Interesting.

Two things. There is a vast difference in the biology of a type of fly and the biology of a human. Secondly, there are talking about sexual behavior which is different from sexual orientation. Male prisoners in jail have sex with other men. That does not alter the fact that they are heterosexual.
 
Two things. There is a vast difference in the biology of a type of fly and the biology of a human. Secondly, there are talking about sexual behavior which is different from sexual orientation. Male prisoners in jail have sex with other men. That does not alter the fact that they are heterosexual.

Not sure if they are going for an orientation change. Nevertheless it is interesting they can alter behavior back and forth with a gene twist.

In the end what difference does it make if they think it but no longer do it?
 
Typical answer when your beat...attack the messenger.......-

NP, you have yet to make one rational, substantiated argument against homosexuality. You grasp onto social conservative talking points like they are candy and you think that somehow makes you a winner? Let's be clear on something up front. You are a bigot, by your own admission time and time again, and you have no rational to support your prejudice. Just go join the Westboro Baptist Church and hold up "God Hates America" signs already. They seem to know a hell of a lot about advocating for tolerance of intolerance.
 
Not sure if they are going for an orientation change. Nevertheless it is interesting they can alter behavior back and forth with a gene twist.

It is interesting and I've read the study before. What the study really shows is that genetic alteration can cause behavior change. Unfortunately, many in the anti-gay camp have taken this study to prove that homosexuality can be changed. The study does NOT prove that.

In the end what difference does it make if they think it but no longer do it?

Several things. Firstly, it presents homosexuality as a disorder to be cured... which it is not. Secondly, all this does it alter a behavior; since the sexual orientation remains, THIS could cause one to be in distress because of the cognitive dissonance. Lastly, it is unknown what other effects this could have.
 
It is interesting and I've read the study before. What the study really shows is that genetic alteration can cause behavior change. Unfortunately, many in the anti-gay camp have taken this study to prove that homosexuality can be changed. The study does NOT prove that..

It does not prove the reverse either. If anything it proves pulling certain switches does have a real world effect.


Several things. Firstly, it presents homosexuality as a disorder to be cured... which it is not. Secondly, all this does it alter a behavior; since the sexual orientation remains, THIS could cause one to be in distress because of the cognitive dissonance. Lastly, it is unknown what other effects this could have.

Which is a fairly recent development (mid 70s I believe) as a response to intense pressure from activist groups. They just did the same thing with GID.

I would argue that successfully altering the behavior is an indicator of an avenue that can lead to other things to explore.
 
It does not prove the reverse either. If anything it proves pulling certain switches does have a real world effect.

No, it only proves behavioral change. There is no evidence that it proves orientation change, You even said yourself that "what does it matter if they still think it?" If they still think, their orientation has not changed.




Which is a fairly recent development (mid 70s I believe) as a response to intense pressure from activist groups. They just did the same thing with GID.

No, it was a response to pressure to look at methodologically sound research, as opposed to the non-valid and non-reliable research that had been used to present homosexuality as a disorder. The "mental illness" concept of homosexuality, has been thoroughly debunked by credible, valid, and reliable research.

I would argue that successfully altering the behavior is an indicator of an avenue that can lead to other things to explore.

Altering other behavior? Sure. Bust since sexual orientation is more complex than just genetics, I'm not so sure this will lead to the kinds of results you might be suggesting.
 
Yeah, right, we consider it a compliment when you call us homophobes, etc., because we have a different opinion.......

Helpful Tip: Don't put Homophobe on a job application.

Re: Difference of Opinion - Fair enough. But when SCOTUS tosses out Prop 8 and states begin making their marriage/adoption laws constitutional, your fear-based way of thinking (which you call 'opinion') will mean less and less...
 
It does not prove the reverse either. If anything it proves pulling certain switches does have a real world effect.




Which is a fairly recent development (mid 70s I believe) as a response to intense pressure from activist groups. They just did the same thing with GID.

I would argue that successfully altering the behavior is an indicator of an avenue that can lead to other things to explore.

Do you think someone could "just pull a switch" and change your sexual orientation?
Or even cause you to act upon a sexual orientation different than the one you have now?
 
No, it only proves behavioral change. There is no evidence that it proves orientation change, You even said yourself that "what does it matter if they still think it?" If they still think, their orientation has not changed...

I am pretty sure I never said that it did. Only that real world behavior is affected.




No, it was a response to pressure to look at methodologically sound research, as opposed to the non-valid and non-reliable research that had been used to present homosexuality as a disorder. The "mental illness" concept of homosexuality, has been thoroughly debunked by credible, valid, and reliable research.
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Which is all still being debated to this day as evidenced by this thread.
GID and HS could all very well be "no problem at all" but if this is so how come there is a measurable and long line of factual data indicating a much higher risk of mood disorders, anxiety disorders, major depression, or a mix of several? I hope you will avoid the knee jerk reaction of its all someone elses fault as if the same psychological persecuter resides in millions of homes all over the world.

I will assume you are already aware of all this since you appear to be well educated in this area.


Altering other behavior? Sure. Bust since sexual orientation is more complex than just genetics, I'm not so sure this will lead to the kinds of results you might be suggesting.

Possibilities are just that. Are you suggesting its impossible gene alteration alone can affect an individual to great extent?

I am beginning to think this is pointless.

I could care less about orientation and focus more on behavior and you seem to be focused on orientation and care less about behavior.

I am not sure why anyone cares about orientation anyway if the behavior can be controlled. Applies to lots of things.
 
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Do you think someone could "just pull a switch" and change your sexual orientation?
Or even cause you to act upon a sexual orientation different than the one you have now?

Why would I not have genes like anyone else? These scientists play with the building blocks of the universe all the time.
Put in a quarter to play.
 
Follow the chain here Navy. You said gays where intolerant of straits. I asked you to prove it, you say look at this thread, I point out it's not gay people arguing with you, and now you say you don't have to be gay to call names? What does that have to do with what is being said. Now, let's start over...can you prove that gays are intolerant of straits as you claim?

You must be blind redress..If you don't see the lefties calling us homophobe, etc I don't know what to tell you.......
 
You must be blind redress..If you don't see the lefties calling us homophobe, etc I don't know what to tell you.......

Which has exactly what to do with gays being intolerant of straits? Answer the quest navy and stop changing the topic. You said gays where intolerant of straits, a statement you still have not backed up, which is true of all your statements in this thread.
 
NP, you have yet to make one rational, substantiated argument against homosexuality. You grasp onto social conservative talking points like they are candy and you think that somehow makes you a winner? Let's be clear on something up front. You are a bigot, by your own admission time and time again, and you have no rational to support your prejudice. Just go join the Westboro Baptist Church and hold up "God Hates America" signs already. They seem to know a hell of a lot about advocating for tolerance of intolerance.

You have to be the most clueless person to ever be a member of DP if you believe that.....There have been dozens of threads about gays and I have explained my position on the issue of gay marriage and gays in the military over and over again......

Lets try to keep some semblence of honesty OK.......
 
You must be blind redress..If you don't see the lefties calling us homophobe, etc I don't know what to tell you.......

Now wait a minute.

If someone insults you, yes, then that is something to complain about.

But if someone calls you a homophobe, well, that's just a description.

I mean, that's just describing you and your views based on what you've posted. If you don't want to be described as something you clearly are, maybe you should consider not posting your homophobic views here.
 
OK you lefties that are trying to make me the subject of this thread and you know who you are I want to tell you if you want to discuss the subject fine but if you are going to gang up on me and keep attacking me I will not respond to your feeble attempts because you have no answer on the subject of the thread........
 
OK you lefties that are trying to make me the subject of this thread and you know who you are I want to tell you if you want to discuss the subject fine but if you are going to gang up on me and keep attacking me I will not respond to your feeble attempts because you have no answer on the subject of the thread........

I am just asking you to back up your claim Navy. You said gays where intolerant. Now show some proof of this. So far you have shown zero evidence.
 
I am just asking you to back up your claim Navy. You said gays where intolerant. Now show some proof of this. So far you have shown zero evidence.

Do you think its a compliment to call somepne homophobic? All that takes is a yes or no answer...no left wing spin........yes or no?

I don't call any of you Liberals names and I expect the same respect because just because I have a different opinion I am not homophobic....period......
 
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