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    Re: Lesbian teen back at Miss. school after prom flap

    Quote Originally Posted by Orion View Post
    To me, this case just empasizes the fact that gays have not "won" in America, like so many people run around touting. Every day is still a social battle in many parts. Even in Canada these problems exist, and we are way more liberal than you guys. It takes a long time to phase out the hatred and we just need to have patience.
    So if you are against something you have to hate it?

    While I think the prom experience is overrated (maybe that's because I'm Canadian and it's not as big a deal here), shutting down the whole prom in order to do a workaround to the problem is really disgusting. That's practically asking for the kids to have an unsupervised, off campus party where people are committing all kinds of hedonistic acts.

    Once the party is over, she should sue. Might as well get her college paid for.
    Read the article. She is suing.


    Because what better way to prove you are a raving narcissist than insisting a society accept what you personally believe knowing you will ruin everyone else's good time in doing so.
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    Re: Lesbian teen back at Miss. school after prom flap

    Quote Originally Posted by texmaster View Post
    And you don't understand breaking the rules do you?

    Unless of course you don't think you have to follow them and risk the enjoyment of an event for everyone around you.
    Many schools in south georgia still have segregated proms. That is wrong and they should be integrated and it does not matter if some do not enjoy it as a result. This is the same sort of thing.

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    Re: Lesbian teen back at Miss. school after prom flap

    If you are going to pass yourself off as a teacher try reading carefully.

    She had every intention of breaking the rule or was that too carefully hidden for you?
    If you would like to contest your grade, please site examples from the assigned reading.

    Here, let me help:

    A Feb. 5 memo to students laid out the criteria for bringing a date to the prom, and one requirement was that the person must be of the opposite sex.
    The district announced Wednesday it wouldn't host the April 2 prom. The decision came after the American Civil Liberties Union told officials a policy banning same-sex prom dates violated students' rights. The ACLU said the district not letting McMillen wear a tuxedo violated her free expression rights.
    As you can see, the school issued criteria that violated students rights. Rather than just show up to the prom in a tux with her girlfriend, Constance instead petitioned for the rules to be amended to be more in line with her rights. Since they realized that continuing to host the prom with such unconstitutional criteria would get them in big trouble, the school decided to take their ball and go home rather than join the 21st Century.

    If you are still having trouble understanding the assignment, we could maybe have one of the other students work with you during study hall...

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    Re: Lesbian teen back at Miss. school after prom flap

    Quote Originally Posted by megaprogman View Post
    Many schools in south georgia still have segregated proms. That is wrong and they should be integrated and it does not matter if some do not enjoy it as a result. This is the same sort of thing.
    I'll say it again.

    Stop insulting the civil rights movement by pretending race and sexual preference are equal.
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    Re: Lesbian teen back at Miss. school after prom flap

    Quote Originally Posted by texmaster View Post
    I'll say it again.

    Stop insulting the civil rights movement by pretending race and sexual preference are equal.
    No. I see them as one and the same.

    The only thing that will change my opinion is evidence that being gay is a choice and not a biological issue.
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    Re: Lesbian teen back at Miss. school after prom flap

    Quote Originally Posted by megaprogman View Post
    No. I see them as one and the same.
    Actually, I don't see them as the same. I see them as having the same goal, inherently, but the justifications for each are entirely different.

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    Re: Lesbian teen back at Miss. school after prom flap

    Quote Originally Posted by Panache View Post
    If you would like to contest your grade, please site examples from the assigned reading.

    Here, let me help:

    As you can see, the school issued criteria that violated students rights. Rather than just show up to the prom in a tux with her girlfriend, Constance instead petitioned for the rules to be amended to be more in line with her rights. Since they realized that continuing to host the prom with such unconstitutional criteria would get them in big trouble, the school decided to take their ball and go home rather than join the 21st Century.
    Unconstitutional. I love it when you think you can throw out big words without being challenged. Please cite in the Constitution where all sexual preferences are by law required to be accepted.

    I'll wait.

    If you are still having trouble understanding the assignment, we could maybe have one of the other students work with you during study hall...
    Until you can understand the difference between what is Constitutional and what is personal preference, stick to teaching the kindergartners finger painting. This requires a bit more thought than you are used to.
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    Re: Lesbian teen back at Miss. school after prom flap

    Quote Originally Posted by texmaster View Post
    Unconstitutional. I love it when you think you can throw out big words without being challenged. Please cite in the Constitution where all sexual preferences are by law required to be accepted.

    I'll wait.

    Until you can understand the difference between what is Constitutional and what is personal preference, stick to teaching the kindergartners finger painting. This requires a bit more thought than you are used to.
    If it is unconstitutional than the constitution is wrong. Period.

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    Re: Lesbian teen back at Miss. school after prom flap

    Quote Originally Posted by megaprogman View Post
    No. I see them as one and the same.

    The only thing that will change my opinion is evidence that being gay is a choice and not a biological issue.
    Exactly. Why should we accept all sexual behaviors based on choice? Are you claiming you would because I can easily come up with some choices people make in sexual preference I bet you would object to.
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    Re: Lesbian teen back at Miss. school after prom flap

    Okay a few things...

    The "Tuxedo" thing was ****ing ridiculous. So if she was STRAIGHT and wanted to wear a Tux that'd be okay but if she's gay and wanting to do it its "rubbing it in our faces".

    Second, to a point Tex is right. There are rules, you break the rules, consequences follow. I don't feel sorry for this girl in so much that she broke a rule and consequences occurred.

    Third, just because there's a rule doesn't mean its not ****ing ridiculous and amazingly bigoted. While I don't feel sorry for her, I do applaud her courage and conviction to perform civil disobedience to show her displeasure for an amazingly retarded rule.

    Fourth, I do feel sympathy for her classmates AND for her that the school went above and beyond what normal, realistic, understandable consequences would be and instead punished EVERYONE over a stupid ****ing rule by canceling Prom rather then deal with their own bigoted ruleset.

    Fifth, I put even money these two showing up together would've ruined a hell of a lot less peoples good times than CANCELING PROM. And yet the school gets a pass for reacting COMPLETELY over the top while bigots try and come down on the girl.

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