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    Re: Lesbian teen back at Miss. school after prom flap

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    Re: Lesbian teen back at Miss. school after prom flap

    The idiot principal and his/her school board backers need to lose their jobs over this issue.

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    Injuction denied:

    http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/...ZHJUwD9EKHT100

    Judge denies IAHS prom injunction request - WTVA.com
    ABERDEEN, Miss. (WTVA) - A federal judge will not force the Itawamba County schools to hold a high school prom at its high school in Fulton.

    Davidson said, in his 12 page written opinion, that McMillen's sexuality is an extension of speech. By blocking her from the prom, the school district was violating her First Amendment rights.

    However, he added that forcing the school district back into a sponsorship role with the prom at this time would be disruptive and not be in the public's best interest.
    I must say I'm glad we're not having a federal court force a school to hold a prom simply to provide Constance with a stage from which to express her first amendment rights. I thought it would be ludicrous for the injuction to be granted.

    Now having lost the injunction, it is expected that Constance will take the case to court with a "substantial liklihood" to win on the first amendment claim, where she will try to recover $1 in damages plus attorney's fees. Good thing for her she got the $30,000 on Ellen because it doesn't appear that the case itself is doing much for her.
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    Re: Lesbian teen back at Miss. school after prom flap

    Quote Originally Posted by Taylor View Post
    Injuction denied:

    The Associated Press: Judge rules against lesbian teen in prom flap

    Judge denies IAHS prom injunction request - WTVA.com

    I must say I'm glad we're not having a federal court force a school to hold a prom simply to provide Constance with a stage from which to express her first amendment rights. I thought it would be ludicrous for the injuction to be granted.

    Now having lost the injunction, it is expected that Constance will take the case to court with a "substantial liklihood" to win on the first amendment claim, where she will try to recover $1 in damages plus attorney's fees. Good thing for her she got the $30,000 on Ellen because it doesn't appear that the case itself is doing much for her.
    Question. Do you support this line from the article, especially the part I placed in bold: "However, he added that forcing the school district back into a sponsorship role with the prom at this time would be disruptive and not be in the public's best interest. "
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    Re: Lesbian teen back at Miss. school after prom flap

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainCourtesy View Post
    Question. Do you support this line from the article, especially the part I placed in bold: "However, he added that forcing the school district back into a sponsorship role with the prom at this time would be disruptive and not be in the public's best interest"
    I support the community's decision to hold a privately sponsored event or even several. As I stated when the request for a preliminary injunction was announced, the school should not be forced into providing a venue.

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    Re: Lesbian teen back at Miss. school after prom flap

    Quote Originally Posted by Taylor View Post
    I support the community's decision to hold a privately sponsored event or even several. As I stated when the request for a preliminary injunction was announced, the school should not be forced into providing a venue.
    This was ruled based on "the public's best interest" even though the school was found in violation of the girl's 1st Amendment rights. It is good to know that you support legal findings based on evidence supporting "the public's best interest". I will keep that in mind.
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    Re: Lesbian teen back at Miss. school after prom flap

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainCourtesy View Post
    This was ruled based on "the public's best interest" even though the school was found in violation of the girl's 1st Amendment rights.
    It was actually based on four criteria, all of which are pretty much standard when a judge is asked to grant a preliminary injunction. It is up to the plaintiff to demonstrate that all are met... Constance failed to make a persuasive argument with respect to (4):

    1. a substantial likelihood of success on the merits;
    2. a substantial threat that the plairitiff will suffer irreparable injury if the injunction is denied;
    3. that the threatened injury to the plaintiff outweighs any damage that an injunction might cause the defendant; and
    4. that granting the injunction will not disserve the public interest.


    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainCourtesy View Post
    It is good to know that you support legal findings based on evidence supporting "the public's best interest". I will keep that in mind.
    In this legal context, there's really no choice. Of course, people will always argue on what the public interest should be. See for example:

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/emma-r..._b_510804.html
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    Re: Lesbian teen back at Miss. school after prom flap

    Quote Originally Posted by Taylor View Post
    It was actually based on four criteria, all of which are pretty much standard when a judge is asked to grant a preliminary injunction. It is up to the plaintiff to demonstrate that all are met... Constance failed to make a persuasive argument with respect to (4):

    1. a substantial likelihood of success on the merits;
    2. a substantial threat that the plairitiff will suffer irreparable injury if the injunction is denied;
    3. that the threatened injury to the plaintiff outweighs any damage that an injunction might cause the defendant; and
    4. that granting the injunction will not disserve the public interest.



    In this legal context, there's really no choice. Of course, people will always argue on what the public interest should be. See for example:

    Emma Ruby-Sachs: Lesbian Prom Decision a Huge Failure to Uphold Constitutional Rights
    Well said Taylor.

    Thanks very much for the update.
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    Re: Lesbian teen back at Miss. school after prom flap

    817 responses to this topic. We are a nation of soap opera lovers.
    It's nothing more than X's and O's.

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    Re: Lesbian teen back at Miss. school after prom flap

    Quote Originally Posted by rhinefire View Post
    817 responses to this topic. We are a nation of soap opera lovers.
    And you're #819.

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