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    Re: Lesbian teen back at Miss. school after prom flap

    Quote Originally Posted by Catz Part Deux View Post
    These kinds of policies are discriminatory. The case law was established back in the 1990s in Rhode Island. Your posts demonstrate a significant degree of ignorance about these laws.

    You can make these kinds of claims, but they are inaccurate.

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    Re: Lesbian teen back at Miss. school after prom flap

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    In schools where uniforms are required, girls can not wear the boys uniform and boys can not wear the girls uniform.

    The only exception to this I can think of is when the student can document transsexualism or GID.

    If she's just a lesbian then she still has to dress as a woman.
    In public schools where uniforms are required, there are no "boy uniforms" and "girl uniforms".
    If there were, it would be legally challenged and found unconstitutional.

    You're thinking of private schools.

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    Re: Lesbian teen back at Miss. school after prom flap

    Quote Originally Posted by Catz Part Deux View Post
    These kinds of policies are discriminatory.
    It's not discrimination if there's no right being infringed.

    I know of no right to cross-dress at a formal occasion unless she can prove that she thinks she's the sex she's trying to dress as.

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    Re: Lesbian teen back at Miss. school after prom flap

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    In schools where uniforms are required, girls can not wear the boys uniform and boys can not wear the girls uniform.

    The only exception to this I can think of is when the student can document transsexualism or GID.

    If she's just a lesbian then she still has to dress as a woman.
    in general, in schools where there are uniforms, the male/female uniforms are virtually identical. For instance, khaki pants/shorts/skirts and polo shirts.

    Many stores now carry uniform lines, such as Old Navy, the Gap, and Target. The male/female uniforms are very similar, just sold in boys/girls sections.

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    Re: Lesbian teen back at Miss. school after prom flap

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    It's not discrimination if there's no right being infringed.

    I know of no right to cross-dress at a formal occasion unless she can prove that she thinks she's the sex she's trying to dress as.
    Public schools are not in the business of forbidding females to wear pants, Jerry. Not since the late 60s or so.

    I'm not sure how to get this across to you. It is unconstitutional.

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    Re: Lesbian teen back at Miss. school after prom flap

    Also, Jerry, I'd encourage you to read up on Aaron Fricke.

    [ame=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aaron_Fricke]Aaron Fricke - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia[/ame]

    Shortly after he came out in 1980, Fricke began seeing another male student. Fricke decided to bring him as his date to the prom. When the high school informed Fricke he could not bring him to the prom, he filed suit in U.S. District court. The presiding judge, Raymond J. Pettine, ruled in Fricke's favor, ordering the school to not only allow him and his partner to attend as a couple but also to provide enough security to ensure their safety.[1] The case received considerable media attention,[3] and news camera crews filmed and interviewed the couple at the dance.[4]

    The case set a precedent, that has been used across the United States, to establish a legal right for students to bring same sex partners to school proms and other school social events.[5]
    Ten states now have laws on the books making it illegal to discriminate against gay/lesbian students.

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    Re: Lesbian teen back at Miss. school after prom flap

    Quote Originally Posted by 1069 View Post
    Public schools are not in the business of forbidding females from wearing pants, Jerry. Not since the late 60s or so.

    I'm not sure how to get this across to you. It is unconstitutional.
    It's only unconstitutional if there's a right being infringed, and there's only a right being infringed if she can document transsexualism or GID, otherwise her preference in clothing is entirely under her control, is a choice, and therefore is not discrimination.

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    Re: Lesbian teen back at Miss. school after prom flap

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    Do you just throw **** against the wall and hope it will stick?
    You can see the case quoted above:

    Plaintiff - Aaron Fricke

    State: Rhode Island

    Date of case: 1981

    The plaintiff won, and this case has been used as a legal precedent in PROM cases around the U.S. to prohibit discrimination against gay/lesbian students. 10 states already have laws on the books prohibiting schools from doing this sort of thing.

    I hate to break it to you, Navy, but the war is already over. You lost.
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    Re: Lesbian teen back at Miss. school after prom flap

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    It's only unconstitutional if there's a right being infringed, and there's only a right being infringed if she can document transsexualism or GID, otherwise her preference in clothing is entirely under her control, is a choice, and therefore is not discrimination.
    YOu can keep saying that, but it's wrong.

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    Re: Lesbian teen back at Miss. school after prom flap

    Quote Originally Posted by Catz Part Deux View Post
    Also, Jerry, I'd encourage you to read up on Aaron Fricke.

    Aaron Fricke - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia



    Ten states now have laws on the books making it illegal to discriminate against gay/lesbian students.
    I'm not talking about blocking her from attending, I'm talking about how she dresses while attending.

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