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    Re: Lesbian teen back at Miss. school after prom flap

    Quote Originally Posted by Panache View Post
    The students received a memo explaining the rules of the prom. Proper attire for men and women among them, along with who you could bring. It's pretty common actually. I went out with an 18 yr old when I was 22, and she couldn't bring me to prom because I was too old.
    Never had such "rules" at my school. I went to four proms and I don't recall being given any rules about what I could or could not wear, or who I could or could not bring.

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    Re: Lesbian teen back at Miss. school after prom flap

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post

    It cheapens the whole gay-rights movement.
    Yep just like that whole fight over riding in the back of a bus cheapened the civil rights movement.

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    Re: Lesbian teen back at Miss. school after prom flap

    Quote Originally Posted by jallman View Post
    That's not the point. If there had been no prom to start with, that would be one thing. But this woman attempted to take an event that the vast majority of kids look forward to, that was already planned, and withhold it in order to enforce a moral authority over these kids that she didn't have to start with. She did nothing illegal but she definitely put herself and the school in the line of liability for civil damages. These cases where someone does something maliciously, out of the bounds of their authority, or in negligence are why we have civil damages to start with.
    I'm not saying that there isn't case to be upset. I just can't get all fired up over something as trivial as prom.

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    Without damages being paid out as a penalty, there is nothing to reinforce the ruling. The damages aren't so much a reward to the kids for being hurt by this woman's actions; they are a penalty to remind the woman to never exert control she doesn't have authority to exert again.
    Sure you can, punishments on the administration who implemented the rules. Suspensions, firing, whatever is appropriate. You can do that without paying out money.
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    Re: Lesbian teen back at Miss. school after prom flap

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    The thing eating at me is this fight is over something as frivolous as a school dance.

    It cheapens the whole gay-rights movement.
    It's not frivolous because it's not about the dance. It's about an atmosphere that this young lady endures that is so dismissive of her rights that they would punish all the children just to keep her from expressing her individuality.

    The prom thing might have been the powder keg that started the media firestorm, but you fail to acknowledge that if they did this over a big event like the prom, she surely endures this kind of discrimination every day of her life in other ways.

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    Re: Lesbian teen back at Miss. school after prom flap

    Quote Originally Posted by rivrrat View Post
    Never had such "rules" at my school. I went to four proms and I don't recall being given any rules about what I could or could not wear, or who I could or could not bring.
    We did. But the rules weren't girl's couldn't wear a tux. It was on appropriateness of dress so that you wearing something.
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    Re: Lesbian teen back at Miss. school after prom flap

    Quote Originally Posted by rivrrat View Post
    Never had such "rules" at my school. I went to four proms and I don't recall being given any rules about what I could or could not wear, or who I could or could not bring.
    Me either.

    There was a kind of loose expectation but aside from the typical 'no racism, sexism etc et' we wore what we wanted.

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    Re: Lesbian teen back at Miss. school after prom flap

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    We did. But the rules weren't girl's couldn't wear a tux. It was on appropriateness of dress so that you wearing something.
    I would actually agree with the school on this one because it's well within their rights to require a dress code. If they allow the couple to attend then that couple should attend dressed appropriately for their sex: in dresses.

    ...unless one of them claims to be a transsexual....

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    Re: Lesbian teen back at Miss. school after prom flap

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    I'm not saying that there isn't case to be upset. I just can't get all fired up over something as trivial as prom.
    It's not about "the prom". I would feel the same way if they had cancelled the homecoming or sadie hawkins dance, the football program, a school trip to the museum, the debate team, or honor's society over the same ignorant reasons.

    The fact that it is the prom is secondary to the real issue here.

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    Re: Lesbian teen back at Miss. school after prom flap

    Quote Originally Posted by jallman View Post
    It's not about "the prom". I would feel the same way if they had cancelled the homecoming or sadie hawkins dance, the football program, a school trip to the museum, the debate team, or honor's society over the same ignorant reasons.

    The fact that it is the prom is secondary to the real issue here.
    See all those other examples are equally trivial.

    This is just the wrong battle to pick. The prom is trivial so even if the girls win it just makes gay-rights look petty.

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    Re: Lesbian teen back at Miss. school after prom flap

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    See all those other examples are equally trivial.

    This is just the wrong battle to pick. The prom is trivial so even if the girls win it just makes gay-rights look petty.
    The school chose the battle. The student did not choose it.
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