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    Re: 'I do' in DC: Same-sex couples wed in Washington

    Quote Originally Posted by liblady View Post
    could we all please just realize that any union outside a church is only a civil union, and not a marriage?
    Not really. Its only recently in the history of man that churches got involved with marriage.

    Justinian Lawyers came up with rules about it around 550 as another way to control you.

    The church saw the advantage of controlling marriage and started getting into it 400 years later through blessings and prayers. The council of Trent started requiring catholic marriages with a priest and witnesses. It became fashionable around the 18th century. $$$


    Civil ceremonies started popping up around colonial times via magistrates.


    The common law option is there for everyone and always has been.

    This about sticking it in your face and money.
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    Re: 'I do' in DC: Same-sex couples wed in Washington

    Quote Originally Posted by chevydriver1123 View Post
    There are some things that couples do get if they get state recognition. One big one is Hospital visits, by law my girlfriend cant see me in the hospital within a certain time period because we arent married (not that I want to be married).
    Yes - I am of the mind that the benefits that come with the state-recognition of marriage outweigh any drawbacks. Regarding hospital visits, I'm dubious that it's illegal for the hospital to allow a visit from your girlfriend so long as you're able to ok it. It might be their policy not to allow it - but I don't see government making it illegal unless it's to protect your privacy (e.g. you've been in an accident and are not able to "clear" the visitor).

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    Re: 'I do' in DC: Same-sex couples wed in Washington

    Quote Originally Posted by Catz Part Deux View Post
    I actually think that it's the most practical way to respond to it. Make every governmental relationship contract a "civil union" and let people get "married" in a church. "Marriage" is defended, and gays/lesbians get equal rights. Win/Win.
    I understand the logic, and don't disagree. What I am saying though is the votes to do something like this do not exist, nor will they any time soon. As such, we have to deal with marriage as it is now, and work to make changes that work within that framework.
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    Re: 'I do' in DC: Same-sex couples wed in Washington

    Those people in DC can get married all they want.....they will not get one government benefit........
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    Re: 'I do' in DC: Same-sex couples wed in Washington

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    Those people in DC can get married all they want.....they will not get one government benefit........
    Why do you oppose people being able to visit loved ones in a hospital, file taxes jointly, or inherit possessions of a deceased loved one?

    Because that's what this is all about. It's about the law treating everyone equally. It's not about the word. It's about being treated as second class citizens.
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    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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    Re: 'I do' in DC: Same-sex couples wed in Washington

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    Why do you oppose people being able to visit loved ones in a hospital...
    That's not a legal right.

    I know first hand that's hospital policy. There is no law mandating access for a spouse, and this being a problem is much less common then you might assume. Usually the hospital will let in whomever the patient wants when visitors are allowed.

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    Re: 'I do' in DC: Same-sex couples wed in Washington

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    You know, I am really torn on this. Why? Because when was who got married any of the government's damn business anyways? When our forefathers got married, they just did it, and didn't need a license. It was only racism in the south and eugenics in the north that brought about marriage licenses. If my wife and I had to get married again, we would just do it, and give the government a big, fat, middle finger, by not registering and getting their damn license. We would be married, whether or not the government approved of it. It's not their domain, and they have absolutely no say in it.

    However, having said that, I will now say congratulations to brides and grooms, brides and brides, and grooms and grooms, wherever they may find themselves at the altar, whether that altar is religious or secular.

    Article is here.
    Half of them will end up divorced anyway so I don't see why anyone should give a rat's ass.

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    Re: 'I do' in DC: Same-sex couples wed in Washington

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    Why do you oppose people being able to visit loved ones in a hospital, file taxes jointly, or inherit possessions of a deceased loved one?


    Because that's what this is all about. It's about the law treating everyone equally. It's not about the word. It's about being treated as second class citizens.
    I don't because none of those are federal benefits.......

    Everyone is treated equally....Gays can marry anyone of the opposite sex just as I can.....
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    Re: 'I do' in DC: Same-sex couples wed in Washington

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    I don't because none of those are federal benefits.......
    They're benefits of marriage. The exact nature varies state by state, but these benefits are denied to same-sex couples.You're splitting hairs, and doing it badly. Why do you oppose these benefits to same-sex couples?
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    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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    Re: 'I do' in DC: Same-sex couples wed in Washington

    All opposition to gay marriage boils down to "I don't like it and therefore they shouldn't have it."

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