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    Re: 'I do' in DC: Same-sex couples wed in Washington

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    I think written licenses go back about 200 years but 'licenses' as the forefathers and earlier people would have interpreted them were usually public declarations of marriage.
    A declaration implies something very different than a licence. The former says "Hey everybody, guess what?" while the latter says "Hey everybody, is it okay if we.."
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    Re: 'I do' in DC: Same-sex couples wed in Washington

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    You know, I am really torn on this. Why? Because when was who got married any of the government's damn business anyways? When our forefathers got married, they just did it, and didn't need a license. It was only racism in the south and eugenics in the north that brought about marriage licenses. If my wife and I had to get married again, we would just do it, and give the government a big, fat, middle finger, by not registering and getting their damn license. We would be married, whether or not the government approved of it. It's not their domain, and they have absolutely no say in it.
    Government recognition is an option, not a requirement. The government could care less if you want to give it a "big, fat, middle finger."

    These days, any gay couple can get married in the sense of our forefathers. If they want to "just do it without a license" nobody is going to come after them. That type of marriage exists today for everyone, does it not?

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    Re: 'I do' in DC: Same-sex couples wed in Washington

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    Which will not happen any time soon in this country. Dealing with the country as it is now, marriage is a particular thing, and gays want a part of that thing, which seems reasonable to me.
    it's still all semantics, really.

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    Re: 'I do' in DC: Same-sex couples wed in Washington

    that's fine too......

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    Re: 'I do' in DC: Same-sex couples wed in Washington

    Quote Originally Posted by liblady View Post
    it's still all semantics, really.
    No, it very clearly is not semantics. Marriage has legal meaning and legal benefits. That is not semantics.
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    Re: 'I do' in DC: Same-sex couples wed in Washington

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    No, it very clearly is not semantics. Marriage has legal meaning and legal benefits. That is not semantics.
    I think that government needs to get out of the marriage business.

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    Re: 'I do' in DC: Same-sex couples wed in Washington

    yes, a legal marriage conveys benefits. my contention is that a marriage belongs in a church, while a civil union is just that, civil, although we categorize civil unions as marriage right now. but i've heard that many people are perfectly ok with civil unions for gays, and i think we already have the mechanism in place for that, which is marriage outside a church.

    maybe i'm not explaining myself very well, but it seems to me the label is what's important to some poeple.

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    Re: 'I do' in DC: Same-sex couples wed in Washington

    Quote Originally Posted by Catz Part Deux View Post
    I think that government needs to get out of the marriage business.
    And that is not going to happen. Just from a purely practical standpoint, it's a nonstarter.
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    Re: 'I do' in DC: Same-sex couples wed in Washington

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    And that is not going to happen. Just from a purely practical standpoint, it's a nonstarter.
    I actually think that it's the most practical way to respond to it. Make every governmental relationship contract a "civil union" and let people get "married" in a church. "Marriage" is defended, and gays/lesbians get equal rights. Win/Win.

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    Re: 'I do' in DC: Same-sex couples wed in Washington

    Quote Originally Posted by Taylor View Post
    Government recognition is an option, not a requirement. The government could care less if you want to give it a "big, fat, middle finger."

    These days, any gay couple can get married in the sense of our forefathers. If they want to "just do it without a license" nobody is going to come after them. That type of marriage exists today for everyone, does it not?
    There are some things that couples do get if they get state recognition. One big one is Hospital visits, by law my girlfriend cant see me in the hospital within a certain time period because we arent married (not that I want to be married).
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