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    Re: 'I do' in DC: Same-sex couples wed in Washington

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    When our forefathers got married, they just did it, and didn't need a license. It was only racism in the south and eugenics in the north that brought about marriage licenses.
    Marriage licenses in the U.S. go back to colonial America(1600s). I think written licenses go back about 200 years but 'licenses' as the forefathers and earlier people would have interpreted them were usually public declarations of marriage. But even then Catholics couldn't marry Protestants and Protestants couldn't marry Muslims etc etc. If anything prohibitions on marriage are an invention of the 1800s. Licenses go back a few centuries in different forms. But I could be wrong. I remember reading something once about something called 'Banns of Marriage'.
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    Re: 'I do' in DC: Same-sex couples wed in Washington

    it's all terminology. how is a jp ceremony any more than a civil union? it's not religious.

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    Re: 'I do' in DC: Same-sex couples wed in Washington

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    Marriage has in this country certain legal rights and responsibilities. It's a legal term. You can't discount that.
    i'm not. i'm saying define everything that is civil as civil, and grant rights to those unions the way rights are granted to marriages now.

    let marriage be in the religious realm.

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    Re: 'I do' in DC: Same-sex couples wed in Washington

    Quote Originally Posted by liblady View Post
    i'm not. i'm saying define everything that is civil as civil, and grant rights to those unions the way rights are granted to marriages now.

    let marriage be in the religious realm.
    Which will not happen any time soon in this country. Dealing with the country as it is now, marriage is a particular thing, and gays want a part of that thing, which seems reasonable to me.
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    Re: 'I do' in DC: Same-sex couples wed in Washington

    Quote Originally Posted by liblady View Post
    i'm not. i'm saying define everything that is civil as civil, and grant rights to those unions the way rights are granted to marriages now.

    let marriage be in the religious realm.
    Then every marriage recognized by the government should actually be called a civil union then. You assume that religion owns the term marriage. That's not true. And what if the person is simply an online ordained minister that will perform any ceremony you want? It's not like they're required to do a specific ceremony every time. My officiant asked us what kind of ceremony we wanted at lunch. She had a book. She told me in an earlier conversation that she did a ceremony in a bathing suit in a hot tub earlier that year. She was willing to adjust to whatever kind of ceremony we wanted, religious or not. So how do you determine if this would be a marriage or a civil union? And what if one person believes in God and the other believes in multiple gods? Maybe one person sees it as a religious ceremony and one as a declaration of their love to friends and family. How do you determine if its a civil union or a marriage?
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    Re: 'I do' in DC: Same-sex couples wed in Washington

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    You know, I am really torn on this. Why? Because when was who got married any of the government's damn business anyways? When our forefathers got married, they just did it, and didn't need a license. It was only racism in the south and eugenics in the north that brought about marriage licenses. If my wife and I had to get married again, we would just do it, and give the government a big, fat, middle finger, by not registering and getting their damn license. We would be married, whether or not the government approved of it. It's not their domain, and they have absolutely no say in it.
    I freaking love you, man. Thanks for really distilling down exactly why the whole government interference in this subject thing is so offensive to me. It is NONE OF THE GUMMINT's BUSINESS who I marry. The only thing that matters is that I file my taxes and that I don't break any laws.

    The fact that conservatives have gotten themselves into the middle of people's private business is...anti-conservative.

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    Re: 'I do' in DC: Same-sex couples wed in Washington

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    I remember reading something once about something called 'Banns of Marriage'.
    Posting the banns was a religious function, not a governmental one. The churches did it.

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    Re: 'I do' in DC: Same-sex couples wed in Washington

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    Then every marriage recognized by the government should actually be called a civil union then.
    That's exactly what should happen.

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    Re: 'I do' in DC: Same-sex couples wed in Washington

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    That's exactly what should happen.
    I'm all for it. But I think it will be much more likely that the government will eventually just call them all marriages.
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    Keep your religion out of other people's marriages.

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    Re: 'I do' in DC: Same-sex couples wed in Washington

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    I'm all for it. But I think it will be much more likely that the government will eventually just call them all marriages.
    Sure, why not? If it walks and talks like a duck etc etc

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