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    Re: Republicans scold Liz Cheney

    Quote Originally Posted by Groucho View Post
    Duh.

    But then again, I suppose if I were evil, I'd feel the same way.
    Actually, the terrorists are the evil ones, but your confusion is to be expected.

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    Re: Republicans scold Liz Cheney

    Quote Originally Posted by Ethereal View Post
    Actually, the terrorists are the evil ones, but your confusion is to be expected.
    Anyone can do evil things.

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    Re: Republicans scold Liz Cheney

    Quote Originally Posted by Ethereal View Post
    Actually, the terrorists are the evil ones, but your confusion is to be expected.
    The terrorists believe they are doing god's work and are therefore doing good. And you think that, because you are against evil, that you must be good.

    By that logic, Stalin was good because he fought Hitler.

    Today's moral for those too simple minded to understand: Both sides can be evil.

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    Re: Republicans scold Liz Cheney

    Quote Originally Posted by misterman View Post
    Anyone can do evil things.
    I know. Thanks.

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    Re: Republicans scold Liz Cheney

    Quote Originally Posted by Groucho View Post
    The terrorists believe they are doing god's work and are therefore doing good. And you think that, because you are against evil, that you must be good.

    By that logic, Stalin was good because he fought Hitler.

    Today's moral for those too simple minded to understand: Both sides can be evil.
    The only simplistic ones are the people reflexively labeling "torture" (which is nothing more than physical pain being inflicted on a person) as categorically immoral, that it's never, ever justified no matter what. That is an absurdly absolutist position lacking any semblance of intellectual honesty. We morally justify killing all the time. Killing is worse than "torture" in some instances, yet one is perfectly justifiable while the other is not? Makes no sense, at all.

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    Re: Republicans scold Liz Cheney

    Quote Originally Posted by Ethereal View Post
    The only simplistic ones are the people reflexively labeling "torture" (which is nothing more than physical pain being inflicted on a person) as categorically immoral, that it's never, ever justified no matter what. That is an absurdly absolutist position lacking any semblance of intellectual honesty. We morally justify killing all the time. Killing is worse than "torture" in some instances, yet one is perfectly justifiable while the other is not? Makes no sense, at all.
    Well, don't you and everyone else reflexively label "terrorism" as categorically immoral? Or do you think that's justifiable sometimes?

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    Re: Republicans scold Liz Cheney

    Quote Originally Posted by misterman View Post
    Well, don't you and everyone else reflexively label "terrorism" as categorically immoral? Or do you think that's justifiable sometimes?
    It depends on how you define terrorism.

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    Re: Republicans scold Liz Cheney

    Quote Originally Posted by Ethereal View Post
    It depends on how you define terrorism.
    Well, then, you need to stop using the word "terrorism" as a categorically immoral act.

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    Re: Republicans scold Liz Cheney

    Quote Originally Posted by misterman View Post
    Well, then, you need to stop using the word "terrorism" as a categorically immoral act.
    Repeat: It depends on how you define terrorism. If we can agree on a definition, then I would be comfortable as labeling it categorically immoral and would defend my position.

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    Re: Republicans scold Liz Cheney

    Quote Originally Posted by Ethereal View Post
    Repeat: It depends on how you define terrorism. If we can agree on a definition, then I would be comfortable as labeling it categorically immoral and would defend my position.
    Sure, as soon as you define torture. If we can agree on a definition, then would you be comfortable as labeling it categorically immoral and would you defend your position?

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