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    Obama 9th Circuit Nominee: Constitution Must Adapt to Changes in the World

    I think anyone who thinks like this should not be allowed to serve as a judge,lawyer let alone a professor at some university to teach law.


    FOXNews.com - Obama 9th Circuit Nominee: Constitution Must Adapt to Changes in the World

    Even his critics describe him as "brilliant," but President Obama's newly minted judicial nominee -- law professor Goodwin Liu -- will not have an easy time getting to the 9th Circuit bench.

    At age 39, Liu has compiled an impressive resume: Rhodes Scholar, Supreme Court clerk, top grades at both Stanford University and Yale Law School and now law professor University of California, Berkeley.

    Liu has also aligned himself with progressive legal groups, including the American Constitution Society, where he is chairman of the board of directors. That's prompting opponents to argue that Liu is "too far outside the mainstream" to take a seat on a court just one step below the Supreme Court of the United States.

    "He believes the Constitution is something judges can manipulate to have it say what they think culture or evolving standards of decency requires of it in a given day," said the Senate Judiciary Committee's top Republican Jeff Sessions, R-Ala.
    "A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly. But the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself. For the traitor appears not a traitor; he speaks in accents familiar to his victims, and he wears their face and their arguments, he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men. He rots the soul of a nation, he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of the city, he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist. A murder is less to fear"

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    Re: Obama 9th Circuit Nominee: Constitution Must Adapt to Changes in the World

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    I think anyone who thinks like this should not be allowed to serve as a judge,lawyer let alone a professor at some university to teach law.


    FOXNews.com - Obama 9th Circuit Nominee: Constitution Must Adapt to Changes in the World

    Even his critics describe him as "brilliant," but President Obama's newly minted judicial nominee -- law professor Goodwin Liu -- will not have an easy time getting to the 9th Circuit bench.

    At age 39, Liu has compiled an impressive resume: Rhodes Scholar, Supreme Court clerk, top grades at both Stanford University and Yale Law School and now law professor University of California, Berkeley.

    Liu has also aligned himself with progressive legal groups, including the American Constitution Society, where he is chairman of the board of directors. That's prompting opponents to argue that Liu is "too far outside the mainstream" to take a seat on a court just one step below the Supreme Court of the United States.

    "He believes the Constitution is something judges can manipulate to have it say what they think culture or evolving standards of decency requires of it in a given day," said the Senate Judiciary Committee's top Republican Jeff Sessions, R-Ala.
    I'm doubtful as to whether this is a good nominee. He's got a decent background, but what exactly makes him qualified to be on the 9th Circuit? He has no judicial experience, has been a lawyer for exactly 12 years, and seems like more of an activist than an impartial arbiter of the law. He testified before Congress to criticize Alito's qualifications based on some dubious arguments, and comes across as the kind of person who places ideology above consistency.
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    Re: Obama 9th Circuit Nominee: Constitution Must Adapt to Changes in the World

    The founding fathers understood that the constitution would be and should be able to flex. It is the judges responsiblity to understand the spirit of the law and define it based on the situation.


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    Re: Obama 9th Circuit Nominee: Constitution Must Adapt to Changes in the World

    Quote Originally Posted by OxymoronP View Post
    The founding fathers understood that the constitution would be and should be able to flex. It is the judges responsiblity to understand the spirit of the law and define it based on the situation.
    Isn't that accomplished by adding new amendments?
    "A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly. But the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself. For the traitor appears not a traitor; he speaks in accents familiar to his victims, and he wears their face and their arguments, he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men. He rots the soul of a nation, he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of the city, he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist. A murder is less to fear"

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    Re: Obama 9th Circuit Nominee: Constitution Must Adapt to Changes in the World

    Quote Originally Posted by OxymoronP View Post
    The founding fathers understood that the constitution would be and should be able to flex. It is the judges responsiblity to understand the spirit of the law and define it based on the situation.
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    Re: Obama 9th Circuit Nominee: Constitution Must Adapt to Changes in the World

    Quote Originally Posted by RightinNYC View Post
    I'm doubtful as to whether this is a good nominee. He's got a decent background, but what exactly makes him qualified to be on the 9th Circuit? He has no judicial experience, has been a lawyer for exactly 12 years, and seems like more of an activist than an impartial arbiter of the law. He testified before Congress to criticize Alito's qualifications based on some dubious arguments, and comes across as the kind of person who places ideology above consistency.
    Considering the 9th circuit's record, he would probably be perfect.
    "A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly. But the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself. For the traitor appears not a traitor; he speaks in accents familiar to his victims, and he wears their face and their arguments, he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men. He rots the soul of a nation, he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of the city, he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist. A murder is less to fear"

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    Re: Obama 9th Circuit Nominee: Constitution Must Adapt to Changes in the World

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    Isn't that accomplished by adding new amendments?
    NO new amendments add laws to be defined.
    A law by itself does not always create the conditions envisioned by their creation. Thus the Court defines the law, so that it gells with the reality of society.


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    Re: Obama 9th Circuit Nominee: Constitution Must Adapt to Changes in the World

    Well, I agree that the Constitution should flux to mold with changes in society and so forth to some degree.

    But that's up to Congress, not judges.

    If Liu feels this way and believes it's in his power then why bother letting go of the dingdong who's in the grip of the 9th circuit now? Just keep him around.
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    Re: Obama 9th Circuit Nominee: Constitution Must Adapt to Changes in the World

    Wow, Conservative minded people don't like a nominee who believes in a "Living Document" interpretation of the Constitution. I'm so surprised.

    Oxymoron, you can confuse me as always.
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    Re: Obama 9th Circuit Nominee: Constitution Must Adapt to Changes in the World

    Quote Originally Posted by CriticalThought View Post
    Wow, Conservative minded people don't like a nominee who believes in a "Living Document" interpretation of the Constitution. I'm so surprised.

    Oxymoron, you can confuse me as always.
    What do you mean? How have I confused you?


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