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    Re: Obama advisers set to recommend military tribunals for alleged 9/11 plotters

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    Because we're America and people get trials here.
    And that's not always the case. There's a long history of military tribunals going back to the 40's.

    Quote Originally Posted by PogueMoran View Post
    KSM wasnt captured abroad by our military. Of the 3 tribunals Bush had in 8 years 2 guys are already out.
    Doesn't have to be captured abroad.

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    ummmm... because that's the... law?
    Link? What was Quirin?

    And where do you get anything to support such claims
    Take a step back for a second and think about this. If KSM goes to trial and is convicted, he will spend the rest of his life in prison/be executed. If he goes to trial and is not convicted, Obama will use his executive authority to detain him for the rest of his life anyways. If the end result of a case is already preordained, then what will running a sham trial do to the integrity of the judicial system? I would be pretty irritated if I were the judge assigned to this case.
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    Re: Obama advisers set to recommend military tribunals for alleged 9/11 plotters

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    I prefer trials in civilian courts.
    obama used to agree with you, he doesn't now

    i don't think obama really cares what you think

    why would you think anyone cares about your preferences?

    your opinion does not an issue make

    have any of you thought about exactly WHOM would be asked to sit on ksm's JURY

    some school teacher from brooklyn, some accountant from the upper west side...

    how long would it take for the thought to occur to them---if i find ksm guilty and recommend a death penalty for him, how many generations of jihad will i be bringing down upon myself and my loved ones?

    obama WAS FORCED to back down because he and his position are LOSERS

    he and holder are AMATEURS

    they have no understanding of the american soul

    and they never even thought any of this stuff thru

    holder testified before lindsey graham and couldn't even answer the pre-law question of PRECEDENT

    NEW YORK is turning against this white house

    do you understand that, are you following the goings on in NEW YORK?

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    Re: Obama advisers set to recommend military tribunals for alleged 9/11 plotters

    rangel, spitzer, hevesi, paterson, massa...

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    Re: Obama advisers set to recommend military tribunals for alleged 9/11 plotters

    Quote Originally Posted by ADK_Forever View Post
    ummmm... because that's the... law?
    Where does the Constitution provide protection to unlawful combatants captured on foreign soil?

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    Re: Obama advisers set to recommend military tribunals for alleged 9/11 plotters

    Quote Originally Posted by RightinNYC View Post
    Take a step back for a second and think about this. If KSM goes to trial and is convicted, he will spend the rest of his life in prison/be executed. If he goes to trial and is not convicted, Obama will use his executive authority to detain him for the rest of his life anyways. If the end result of a case is already preordained, then what will running a sham trial do to the integrity of the judicial system? I would be pretty irritated if I were the judge assigned to this case.
    For a change I agree with you on this...

    I expect that a part of this is because there isn't really the evidence that would convict him in a court of law, and possibly he's withholding information that the government would like to keep out of the public record.

    Much better to stick with the tried and true technique for justice : Dunk him in water and if he floats he's a terrorist.

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    Re: Obama advisers set to recommend military tribunals for alleged 9/11 plotters

    Quote Originally Posted by PogueMoran View Post
    No he was captured by Pakistani intelligence then turned over to the CIA then transferred to our facility. By what definition of "captured by our military" does that fall under. Transferring of custody is not the same as capturing.
    The CIA is a military apparatus. Not that it matters who captured him; he's an unlawful combatant which means he's not entitled to a trial in the US's criminal justice system.

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    Re: Obama advisers set to recommend military tribunals for alleged 9/11 plotters

    Quote Originally Posted by Ethereal View Post
    Where does the Constitution provide protection to unlawful combatants captured on foreign soil?
    Who has been labeled as an "unlawful combatant"?
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    Re: Obama advisers set to recommend military tribunals for alleged 9/11 plotters

    1. he is not entitled to the rights enjoyed by AMERICAN CITIZENS

    2. sensible americans do not want ksm tried before the likes of lance ito

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    Re: Obama advisers set to recommend military tribunals for alleged 9/11 plotters

    Quote Originally Posted by ADK_Forever View Post
    Who has been labeled as an "unlawful combatant"?
    When you openly defy the Geneva Conventions you are, by definition, an unlawful combatant.

    By the way, I like the way you answered my question with another question.

    Tell me, where are foreign terrorists addressed in the US Constitution?

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    Re: Obama advisers set to recommend military tribunals for alleged 9/11 plotters

    Quote Originally Posted by Ethereal View Post
    When you openly defy the Geneva Conventions you are, by definition, an unlawful combatant.
    And does it matter to you what SCOTUS says about people we capture?

    By the way, I like the way you answered my question with another question.
    I don't address sideways questions that someone asks because they know their argument is a loser. What are you gonna do next, ask me what I would do if a captured terrorist might have knowledge about a nuclear bomb?

    Tell me, where are foreign terrorists addressed in the US Constitution?
    Another distraction.
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