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    Re: JFK tower allowed a kid to direct air traffic

    Quote Originally Posted by Scarecrow Akhbar View Post
    Did anybody crash?

    No?

    Not a story worthy of national news time.
    International news, actually. I read it on the BBC.

    The media is making a mountain out of a molehill here. I agree that there should be strict rules for air traffic controllers, but nothing happened, it's not a big deal.

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    Re: JFK tower allowed a kid to direct air traffic

    The only thing I don't get is why on earth was the child with him at his work?

    I consider that unacceptable and, as a manager in the past, would have sent an employee home if they brought their child with them.

    That, actually, is why they gave him the boot - it's against policy and hes in direct violation of that policy and that's what happens.

    It's, also, against policy to allow family and friends to visit as well.
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    Re: JFK tower allowed a kid to direct air traffic

    Quote Originally Posted by Aunt Spiker View Post
    The only thing I don't get is why on earth was the child with him at his work?

    I consider that unacceptable and, as a manager in the past, would have sent an employee home if they brought their child with them.

    That, actually, is why they gave him the boot - it's against policy and hes in direct violation of that policy and that's what happens.

    It's, also, against policy to allow family and friends to visit as well.
    I visit air traffic control towers all the time. You don't know what you're talking about.
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    Re: JFK tower allowed a kid to direct air traffic

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    I visit air traffic control towers all the time. You don't know what you're talking about.
    I read this quote from the article and misinterpreted it to mean it was a pre-existing policy that he violated.
    My fault!

    The FAA said it has also barred unofficial visits by friends or relatives to FAA air traffic operational areas while it reviews its policies.
    None the less - I can't imagine why someone would bring a child to work. Children can be nothing but distractions. What if the child (now up to two on record, not just the one initially reported) but what if the child threw a mega temper tantrum or decided to run amuck pushing all sorts of buttons?

    I have 4 children and while they're very well behaved most of the time I know very damn well what children do if their mood suddenly changes.

    I wouldn't bring my children anywhere near someplace that serves an important function - let alone allow them to do my job for me while there.

    To add, this posed a very dire safety concern - what made the pilot feel ok with an unfamiliar and unidentified voice over the air? What if the tower was taken over in some bizarre terrorist attack and some idiot was streaming out commands or something?
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    Re: JFK tower allowed a kid to direct air traffic

    Jeez, what a mountain out of a silly little molehill. I think it's great that he brought his kids to work and let them give minor instructions to the pilots. All the planes they talked to were on the ground getting ready for take off, it's not like they were actually directing airborne traffic fer chrissakes.

    I don't even see any reason to suspend anyone. Just give him an official warning not to do it again.
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    Re: JFK tower allowed a kid to direct air traffic

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    It involves airline travel. People freak out over everything.

    If people had a clue how the regional carriers operated they'd never get on an airplane.
    Ain't that the truth. Not just the regional carriers either. I've seen some pretty freaky **** in my almost two decades in the industry.
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    Re: JFK tower allowed a kid to direct air traffic

    I support the suspension. I don't care that the kid was merely repeating words his father told him--having the kid there was a distraction to the father and other employees. It's one thing if these people worked in an office job; it's another thing when they are doing air traffic control. Who thinks that is appropriate?

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    Re: JFK tower allowed a kid to direct air traffic

    Quote Originally Posted by Aunt Spiker View Post
    None the less - I can't imagine why someone would bring a child to work. Children can be nothing but distractions. What if the child (now up to two on record, not just the one initially reported) but what if the child threw a mega temper tantrum or decided to run amuck pushing all sorts of buttons?
    I used to take my daughter to legislative committee meetings at the state capital on a regular basis. She'd sit there quietly and read a book or color. The state legislators thought she was charming as hell. She also used to come to my office in the police department on a regular basis and hang out at my desk. She never caused any problems and it delighted the guys in my unit, who teased the crap out of her. I've taken her on numerous work trips where I was scheduled to do training. When she was little, she'd sit in the back of the room while I taught the class and read a book. Then we'd go sightseeing.

    FWIW, I used to take gang members home to my house for dinner on a regular basis, as well. Of course, those were the good old days, back in the 90s, when people were slightly less uptight than they are now.
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    Re: JFK tower allowed a kid to direct air traffic

    Quote Originally Posted by Catz Part Deux View Post
    I used to take my daughter to legislative committee meetings at the state capital on a regular basis. She'd sit there quietly and read a book or color. The state legislators thought she was charming as hell. She also used to come to my office in the police department on a regular basis and hang out at my desk. She never caused any problems and it delighted the guys in my unit, who teased the crap out of her.

    FWIW, I used to take gang members home to my house for dinner on a regular basis, as well. Of course, those were the good old days, back in the 90s, when people were slightly less uptight than they are now.
    I don't think the issue relates at all to the fact that a child was brought to work. The issue is that a child was brought to you a job that entails traffic control and traffic safety. People where I work bring their kids to work on a regular basis. It's not a problem. Our job doesn't entail safety issues.

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    Re: JFK tower allowed a kid to direct air traffic

    Quote Originally Posted by aps View Post
    I don't think the issue relates at all to the fact that a child was brought to work. The issue is that a child was brought to you a job that entails traffic control and traffic safety. People where I work bring their kids to work on a regular basis. It's not a problem. Our job doesn't entail safety issues.
    I brought my daughter to the gang unit office where guys were investigating cases and planning search warrants. And, I brought my work home to my house (I felt like there was minimal risk, but there was still some risk). These days, that would be forbidden as it would be called a lawsuit waiting to happen. But allowing my clients to interact with my kids, cooking for them, having them eat with my family--that was seen by my clients as a huge act of trust and a privilege.

    Personally, I think the concerns are overblown. I guess there are so many badly behaved children out there that people have forgotten that this used to be rather commonplace for many of us.

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