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    Senate OKs jobless aid after Sen. Bunning relents

    WASHINGTON – The Senate has passed stopgap legislation to extend help for the jobless and keep federal highway dollars flowing. The 78-19 vote came after a GOP senator who was single-handedly holding up the legislation finally relented under withering assaults by Democrats and dwindling support within his own party.


    Kentucky Republican Jim Bunning had been holding up action for days but conceded after pressure intensified with Monday's cutoff of road funding and longer and more generous unemployment benefits and health insurance subsidies for the jobless. Bunning was seeking to force Democrats to finance the $10 billion measure so that it wouldn't add to the deficit.
    Senator Jim Bunning has finally caved, but before people start portraying him as a senile, heartless bastard, they should know what he was asking for. Simply put, he wanted the Democrats to fund the measure, so that it would not add to the already ballooning deficit.

    Yes, Jim Bunning is a senile old bastard, but he seems to be a fiscally responsible bastard, who I agree with on this issue. We expected the Democrats to try and wear him down, but what the hell is wrong with Republicans, who turned on him and hung him out to dry? All he was asking for was for Congress to FUND THE BILL, and NOT ADD TO THE DEFICIT.

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    Re: Senate OKs jobless aid after Sen. Bunning relents

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    Senator Jim Bunning has finally caved, but before people start portraying him as a senile, heartless bastard, they should know what he was asking for. Simply put, he wanted the Democrats to fund the measure, so that it would not add to the already ballooning deficit.

    Yes, Jim Bunning is a senile old bastard, but he seems to be a fiscally responsible bastard, who I agree with on this issue. We expected the Democrats to try and wear him down, but what the hell is wrong with Republicans, who turned on him and hung him out to dry? All he was asking for was for Congress to FUND THE BILL, and NOT ADD TO THE DEFICIT.

    GOP <> fiscal Conervatism

    GOP = RINO

    We need a new party, folks. The Republicrats are out of control.

    Article is here.
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    Re: Senate OKs jobless aid after Sen. Bunning relents


    Bunning Touts Extended Benefits For Kentucky's Unemployed

    Washington, DC
    Friday, February 14, 2003

    U.S. Senator Jim Bunning today announced that legislation to extend temporary unemployment benefits for an additional five months has passed the United States Congress. The legislation, which was unanimously approved yesterday by the Senate and by a vote of 416-4 today in the House, would also provide a temporary 13-week extension of unemployment benefits for all individuals who exhaust their traditional benefits before June 1, 2003. “The 108th Congress is off to a solid start,” said Bunning. “This is hopeful news for our most needy families in Kentucky. By approving this legislation we will help those folks who are currently without work continue to make ends meet until they can find new employment.” Passage of this legislation means that there will be no lapse in assistance for the nearly 10,000 Kentuckians who have filed claims so far for extended benefits. The last extension expired on December 28, 2002. President Bush is expected to sign the bill tomorrow, which means the next payment to states can still be made on Friday, January 10, as originally scheduled.
    Didn't complain about the deficit back then...
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    Re: Senate OKs jobless aid after Sen. Bunning relents

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    Didn't complain about the deficit back then...
    Because, back then, it was funded, and not added to the deficit. It wasn't this time, which was all the difference in the world, and Bunning himself said that was all he was looking for: For it to be funded, and not added to the deficit.
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    Re: Senate OKs jobless aid after Sen. Bunning relents

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    Because, back then, it was funded, and not added to the deficit. It wasn't this time, which was all the difference in the world, and Bunning himself said that was all he was looking for: For it to be funded, and not added to the deficit.
    I could only find that it was an "emergency" bill like this one.

    As requested by your staff, CBO has prepared an estimate of the costs of implementing S. 23 (Public Law 108-1), which was cleared by the Congress on January 8, 2003, and signed by the President the same day. This law extends for five months the program of emergency unemployment compensation established by P.L. 107-147
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    S. 23, an act to provide for a five-month extension of the Temporary Extended Unemployment Compensation Act of 2002 . . .

    Search Results - THOMAS (Library of Congress)

    Perhaps I'm not looking at it properly?

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    Re: Senate OKs jobless aid after Sen. Bunning relents

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    Because, back then, it was funded, and not added to the deficit. It wasn't this time, which was all the difference in the world, and Bunning himself said that was all he was looking for: For it to be funded, and not added to the deficit.
    How exactly can you claim it didn't add to the deficit back then?
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    Re: Senate OKs jobless aid after Sen. Bunning relents

    Quote Originally Posted by Gina View Post
    I could only find that it was an "emergency" bill like this one.
    As requested by your staff, CBO has prepared an estimate of the costs of implementing S. 23 (Public Law 108-1), which was cleared by the Congress on January 8, 2003, and signed by the President the same day. This law extends for five months the program of emergency unemployment compensation established by P.L. 107-147
    .

    S. 23, an act to provide for a five-month extension of the Temporary Extended Unemployment Compensation Act of 2002 . . .

    Search Results - THOMAS (Library of Congress)

    Perhaps I'm not looking at it properly?
    From your own link:

    Using the assumptions underlying CBO's March 2002 baseline, we estimate that P.L. 108-1 would increase outlays by $7.3 billion in fiscal year 2003, and have a net budgetary impact of $6.6 billion over the 2003-2007 period. Over the 2003-2012 period, the net budgetary impact would fall to $2.5 billion. The 10-year costs are less than the outlay effect in 2003 because future transfers to the state unemployment accounts from the federal unemployment trust fund would be reduced by the additional spending on benefits. As a result, CBO assumes that the states would levy higher unemployment insurance taxes than they would have under prior law (i.e., with higher federal-to-state transfers). Those taxes are recorded as revenues on the federal budget. In addition, transfers in 2009 and 2010 that CBO had assumed that states would use to boost benefits now would not occur, and outlays in those years would therefore be lower.
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    Re: Senate OKs jobless aid after Sen. Bunning relents

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    Didn't complain about the deficit back then...
    Can someone in this forum that things have changed in the last two years. This debt issue is finally starting to be understood by the public.

    I have no problem who start acting fiscally responsible. The test would be if he acts the same way for spending he is in favor of.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DarkWizard12 View Post
    He was almost our Mr. Smith.....
    Funny, I don't remember Mr. Smith being delusional …

    “Is (Bunning), as he ages, just becoming a more concentrated version of himself: more arrogant, more prickly? Certainly that would be a normal occurrence. Or is his increasing belligerence an indication of something worse? Has Senator Bunning drifted into territory that indicates a serious health concern?” — editorial, The Louisville Courier-Journal, October 14, 2004¹
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    Re: Senate OKs jobless aid after Sen. Bunning relents

    Being consistent and denouncing all increased spending is going to be hard but it will be even harder to do the right thing which will noy come from the Senate, House of, White House until they all learn from history whic clearly tells us if you want to get out of a hole first thing you have to do you quit digging.

    Until the Liberal/Communists learn that they have to reduce spending and cut taxes the hole is only going to get deeper. It is stupid to think as Biden does, because there is no way you can spend your way out of debt. It has never happen in the history of man.

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