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    Re: Supreme Court Hears Arguments On Chicago Gun Ban

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    anything that makes someone less dependent on government is anathema to the left. Many libs outsource to the government their rights and responsibilities including making personal safety an individual responsibility
    The right does it too though when it comes to social politics. Both sides are to blame for statism. People are losing freedoms because of the bipolar partisan pissing contests that have flamed to extremes in the last 10 years.

    The right will detest Chicago for restricting gun rights but will promote restriction to civil liberties such as freedom from unreasonable search and seizure, airport scanners, and same-sex civil unions.

    Both sides run crying to government for intervention anytime something happens that they don't agree with.

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    Re: Supreme Court Hears Arguments On Chicago Gun Ban

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    That ak-47 picture is hilariously close to accurate. The media calls anything bigger than a squirt gun an "assault rifle" or "machine gun."

    Another favorite is "armor piercing Teflon coated bullets."
    in 1987 or so Josh Sugarmann, a little known marxist agitator of the "new right watch" and once a Brady stooge, circulated a paper to the news media telling them to start confusing semi autos and "assault weapons" with machine guns. Pretty soon the media was showing pictures of that famous scene in Rambo (the LMG off the chopper shooting up the radio room) and acting as if these were "semi autos". Up until that time you would have to spend hours combing through Lexis-Nexis data bases for "semi auto" after that almost every incident of gun violence reported on the news had some reference to "semi auto" including "semi auto revolver, semi auto pump shotguns etc



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    Re: Supreme Court Hears Arguments On Chicago Gun Ban

    Quote Originally Posted by Orion View Post
    The right does it too though when it comes to social politics. Both sides are to blame for statism. People are losing freedoms because of the bipolar partisan pissing contests that have flamed to extremes in the last 10 years.

    The right will detest Chicago for restricting gun rights but will promote restriction to civil liberties such as freedom from unreasonable search and seizure, airport scanners, and same-sex civil unions.

    Both sides run crying to government for intervention anytime something happens that they don't agree with.
    true but the left targets honest people and the industrious. The right targets suspected criminals and stuff many people consider deviant (not supporting it just noting the difference)



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    Re: Supreme Court Hears Arguments On Chicago Gun Ban

    Quote Originally Posted by Orion View Post
    The right does it too though when it comes to social politics. Both sides are to blame for statism. People are losing freedoms because of the bipolar partisan pissing contests that have flamed to extremes in the last 10 years.
    You think the problem is only ten years old?

    The problem starts with Teddy Roosevelt and Wilson, Teddy with his monumental government land grabs, Woody with his Progressivism and urge to be a War President in a war that wasn't any of our business.

    The last ten years are but petty squabbles between two hyenas over who gets to eat the anus, the rest of the Zebra of Freedom is pretty much gone.

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    Re: Supreme Court Hears Arguments On Chicago Gun Ban

    Quote Originally Posted by Orion View Post
    To me the Constitution is pretty clear. I know the legal minutae makes this case more complicated, but how complicated can it really be? "Shall not be infringed" is pretty cut and dry.
    O'reilly had a half-wit on yesterday who was fatuously claiming that the "shall not be infringed" refers, not to "the people" included in the clause, but in the State's authority to run regulated militias.

    The lies from the Left never stop.

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    Re: Supreme Court Hears Arguments On Chicago Gun Ban

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    If Capt'n Jack were President, then Obama would be Lord Cutler Beckett sitting in his luxurious quarters trying to figure out what "9 pieces of 8" means, never realizing that a "piece of eight" is a Spanish dollar
    At least he would be trying to figure something out, unlike the last brainfart we had in office who couldn't count to 11 without bare feet.

    Tit for tat, you understand.

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    Re: Supreme Court Hears Arguments On Chicago Gun Ban

    Quote Originally Posted by NoJingoLingo View Post
    At least he would be trying to figure something out, unlike the last brainfart we had in office who couldn't count to 11 without bare feet.

    Tit for tat, you understand.
    Yeah iss that the same guy that thought there were 57 states.
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    Re: Supreme Court Hears Arguments On Chicago Gun Ban

    Quote Originally Posted by Scarecrow Akhbar View Post
    You think the problem is only ten years old?

    The problem starts with Teddy Roosevelt and Wilson, Teddy with his monumental government land grabs, Woody with his Progressivism and urge to be a War President in a war that wasn't any of our business.

    The last ten years are but petty squabbles between two hyenas over who gets to eat the anus, the rest of the Zebra of Freedom is pretty much gone.
    Partisan politics is nothing new, but what I meant to say is that the intensity has increased a lot in the past 10 years. I wasn't around for previous big campaigns like the Cold War or Vietnam, and I was too young to even remember the First Gulf War. It just seems like the polarization of the nation has intensified a lot. People seem to pick their side and stick to it with everything.

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    Re: Supreme Court Hears Arguments On Chicago Gun Ban

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    true but the left targets honest people and the industrious. The right targets suspected criminals and stuff many people consider deviant (not supporting it just noting the difference)
    I recognize that you are just trying to understand what people are doing, but again I don't think it's that cut and dry. Liberals disagree with each other just as conservatives do, so I don't think there is uniformity in strategy or targets.

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    Re: Supreme Court Hears Arguments On Chicago Gun Ban

    Quote Originally Posted by Orion View Post
    Partisan politics is nothing new, but what I meant to say is that the intensity has increased a lot in the past 10 years.
    I will have to disagree until someone is shot in a duel. So far no one has been killed in this partisan period in an organized disagreement.
    Neither side in an argument can find the truth when both make an absolute claim on it.

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