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    Re: Supreme Court Hears Arguments On Chicago Gun Ban

    Quote Originally Posted by LaMidRighter View Post
    I will have to disagree until someone is shot in a duel. So far no one has been killed in this partisan period in an organized disagreement.
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    Re: Supreme Court Hears Arguments On Chicago Gun Ban

    Quote Originally Posted by NoJingoLingo View Post
    At least he would be trying to figure something out, unlike the last brainfart we had in office who couldn't count to 11 without bare feet.

    Tit for tat, you understand.
    You need to make that a Pirates of the Caribbean movie reference in some way for it to be a tit-for-tat

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    Re: Supreme Court Hears Arguments On Chicago Gun Ban

    Quote Originally Posted by Goobieman View Post
    Anyone see anything regarding the oral arguments?

    Justices may extend gun owner rights nationwide - Yahoo! News

    The court already has said that most of the guarantees in the Bill of Rights serve as a check on state and local laws. Still, "states have substantial latitude and ample authority to impose reasonable regulations," said Justice Anthony Kennedy, who was among the majority in the 2008 decision.

    "Why can't we do the same thing with firearms?" he asked.
    As long as these regulation parallel those found for the other rights protected by the bill of rights, that’s fine. Slander, libel, fighting words, inciting a riot, yelling fire in a theater, etc, all fall outside the protection of the 1st amendment because they either directly cause harm or create a condition of an immediate clear and present danger to others.

    But, none of the ‘reasonable regulations’ sought by the anti-gun loons have any relationship at all to that concept.
    Last edited by Goobieman; 03-04-10 at 12:00 PM.

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    Re: Supreme Court Hears Arguments On Chicago Gun Ban

    Quote Originally Posted by NoJingoLingo View Post
    So a State can decide that you need a permit to walk around with a gun strapped to your waist? Can they also say you can't walk around with a gun strapped to your waste?
    They can, but that would be an infingement.
    The simple act of possessing a gun harms no one, and does not create a condition of immediate, clear and present danger to others.

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    Re: Supreme Court Hears Arguments On Chicago Gun Ban

    Quote Originally Posted by NoJingoLingo View Post
    Yeah, because I think everyone should be able to stand up in a crowded theater and yell FIRE!!!
    In specific terms, describe the 2nd amendment equivelant to this.

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    Re: Supreme Court Hears Arguments On Chicago Gun Ban

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    Well, if I cared what people like him thought I'd have much higher blood pressure.
    This is an interesting case. It's sort of the 2nd amendment combined with the 14th amendment butting heads with the 10th amendment.
    Incorporation of the bill of rights thru the 14th amendment is nothing new, and given the 14th amendment, is inevitable.

    The 10th amendment does not give a state the right to infringe on the rights protected by the bill of rights.

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    Re: Supreme Court Hears Arguments On Chicago Gun Ban

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    You need to make that a Pirates of the Caribbean movie reference in some way for it to be a tit-for-tat
    My bad, Bush is like the one eyed guy and Cheney is the fat idiot who hangs with him. Better?

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    Re: Supreme Court Hears Arguments On Chicago Gun Ban

    Quote Originally Posted by Goobieman View Post
    In specific terms, describe the 2nd amendment equivelant to this.
    We the people decide that some things are dangerous to the populace and restrict them. That was pretty simple.

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    Re: Supreme Court Hears Arguments On Chicago Gun Ban

    Quote Originally Posted by NoJingoLingo View Post
    We the people decide that some things are dangerous to the populace and restrict them. That was pretty simple.
    Except the Bill of Rights do not add any qualifiers to "shall not be infringed" it's plain english with no "unless you really want to because you think that for no damn good reason that criminalizing guns just to make yourself feel better." Your side must demonstrate a necessary and proper restriction that qualifies beyond a shadow of a doubt to be both necessary AND proper, so far disarming innocent gun owners hasn't accomplished anything.
    Neither side in an argument can find the truth when both make an absolute claim on it.

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    Re: Supreme Court Hears Arguments On Chicago Gun Ban

    Quote Originally Posted by NoJingoLingo View Post
    We the people decide that some things are dangerous to the populace and restrict them. That was pretty simple.
    I guess that makes the Bill of Rights a pretty pointless document.

    There was once a day when people thought that voting rights for black people was dangerous to the populace and should be restricted. Maybe we should go back down that road again?

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