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    Five European states back burka ban

    As much as I hate to be the bearer of bad news it's too late to stop Muslim influence in Europe or North America.

    The spread of members of this cult of hate and repression are set to dominate the world if the spread of of the cult is not stopped and very soon.

    Only a cult teaches a reward for the murder of innocent people and subjugates and represses woman.

    Until the west has guts enough to tell the truth about this cult the war on terror and the spread of the cult will continue.

    I don't see the wearing of the Burka as a threat but the teachings most certainly are a threat to Governments and anyone who will not submit to the cult.

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    FT.com / Europe - Five European states back burka ban

    By James Blitz
    Published: March 1 2010 16:54 | Last updated: March 1 2010 16:54

    More than half of voters in four other major European states back a push by France’s Nicolas Sarkozy to ban women from wearing the burka, according to an opinion poll for the Financial Times.

    As Mr Sarkozy presses ahead with plans to ban the wearing of the burka in public places, the FT’s latest Harris poll shows the move is not just strongly supported in France, but wins enthusiastic backing in the UK, Italy, Spain and Germany.

    The poll shows some 70 per cent of respondents in France said they supported plans to forbid the wearing of the garment which covers the female body from head to toe. There was similar sentiment in Spain and Italy, where 65 per cent and 63 per cent respectively favored a ban.

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    Re: Five European states back burka ban

    In the US we do have an opposing force on the rise. Hispanics are Catholics, and their numbers are growing. Nevertheless, the first amendment is the shield against potential Islamic tyranny.
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    Re: Five European states back burka ban

    Quote Originally Posted by Councilman View Post
    As much as I hate to be the bearer of bad news it's too late to stop Muslim influence in Europe or North America.

    The spread of members of this cult of hate and repression are set to dominate the world if the spread of of the cult is not stopped and very soon.

    Only a cult teaches a reward for the murder of innocent people and subjugates and represses woman.

    Until the west has guts enough to tell the truth about this cult the war on terror and the spread of the cult will continue.

    I don't see the wearing of the Burka as a threat but the teachings most certainly are a threat to Governments and anyone who will not submit to the cult.

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    Wow, what hateful cult are you a member of?

    I clicked on this expecting to read up on the progress France has made in the last 6 years or so. They aren't trying to ban the burka to discourage the Muslim faith, it's because you can't tell who's wearing it.

    I really don't understand the opinions of some people... How can you talk about hate while embracing it yourself?

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    Re: Five European states back burka ban

    I'm not against the Muslim-faith and such in general.
    I'm against those who go overboard with it all and become viligent about 'spreading the good word' or whatnot on others through violence and force, etc. This can apply to any religion and any faith, really. It's not the general belief or religion, it's the people who take it to the extremes - for me, anyway.

    Banning burqas is like banning the wearing of a cross, sari, headscarf, yamaka, habit, a kesa, alb or stole or hairstyles like the Rasta and a queue . . . the list can go on.

    I think it's offensive to pick ONE religion out and say "you're bad, the others are all ok"

    People need to grow up, let go of a the paranoia, and act like adults - not like bullies on a playground or snotty little girls with their 'girls only' club.

    I use to think it was sexist, actually- and was against the burqa and such.
    But I read one American woman's view of it, she said that it made her life easier - she always had the right clothes picked out, she never had to worry about her clothes and how they looked, and her hair, and she felt comfortable. She didn't feel oppressed.

    Well - I'm sure some women don't like it just the same as some women who DO like it.

    So people should really be advocating for it to be a choice - not for just making the choice on behalf of someone who might not mind wearing such-n-such.

    Its like my Dad and his ministerial shirts (a cassock-style shirt with a tab in the collar). He doesn't HAVE to wear them - but he likes to.
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    Re: Five European states back burka ban

    Quote Originally Posted by Jray573 View Post
    Wow, what hateful cult are you a member of?

    I clicked on this expecting to read up on the progress France has made in the last 6 years or so. They aren't trying to ban the burka to discourage the Muslim faith, it's because you can't tell who's wearing it.

    I really don't understand the opinions of some people... How can you talk about hate while embracing it yourself?
    So now its hateful to oppose one culture entering another country and trying to force it to conform to its culture.

    I don't understand the opinions of people like you either.
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    Re: Five European states back burka ban

    A couple of points here I would offer is that banning the Burka does not necessarily target Islam per se, since there is nothing in Islam that actually commands its use. Now, it is certainly misogynistic, the knuckle dragging troglodytes who view women as property are some of the lowest forms of life on the planet, and this revolting anachronism may have no place in a liberal, western society, but it isn't all of Islam supporting it -- only the Islamists. While I would call the Islamists a cult, I would not call all of Islam a cult, since not all of Islam supports it. It may represent PART of Islam just as Landover Babtist represents part of Christianity, but it only furthers the divide to fail to distinguish between Islam and Islamists.

    From where I sit, I'd say there are way too many people who fail to distinguish between Islam and Islamism across the political spectrum. Those on the right tend to lump both together and assail the entire religion, while those on the left are so eager to defend the religion that they indulge in apologia for the Islamism. Neither attitude is especially helpful in the west where there is most definitely a growing population of Islamists who want to subvert the existing cultures, but also Muslims who have assimilated and support western ways.
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    Re: Five European states back burka ban

    Quote Originally Posted by Aunt Spiker View Post
    I'm not against the Muslim-faith and such in general.
    I'm against those who go overboard with it all and become viligent about 'spreading the good word' or whatnot on others through violence and force, etc. This can apply to any religion and any faith, really. It's not the general belief or religion, it's the people who take it to the extremes - for me, anyway.

    Banning burqas is like banning the wearing of a cross, sari, headscarf, yamaka, habit, a kesa, alb or stole or hairstyles like the Rasta and a queue . . . the list can go on.

    I think it's offensive to pick ONE religion out and say "you're bad, the others are all ok"

    People need to grow up, let go of a the paranoia, and act like adults - not like bullies on a playground or snotty little girls with their 'girls only' club.

    I use to think it was sexist, actually- and was against the burqa and such.
    But I read one American woman's view of it, she said that it made her life easier - she always had the right clothes picked out, she never had to worry about her clothes and how they looked, and her hair, and she felt comfortable. She didn't feel oppressed.

    Well - I'm sure some women don't like it just the same as some women who DO like it.

    So people should really be advocating for it to be a choice - not for just making the choice on behalf of someone who might not mind wearing such-n-such.

    Its like my Dad and his ministerial shirts (a cassock-style shirt with a tab in the collar). He doesn't HAVE to wear them - but he likes to.
    Have you even seen a burka? Doesn't sound like it to make such a ridiculous comparison to other religious symbols.
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    Re: Five European states back burka ban

    Quote Originally Posted by Aunt Spiker View Post

    I use to think it was sexist, actually- and was against the burqa and such.
    But I read one American woman's view of it, she said that it made her life easier - she always had the right clothes picked out, she never had to worry about her clothes and how they looked, and her hair, and she felt comfortable. She didn't feel oppressed.

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    Is she one of these women, by any chance?

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    Re: Five European states back burka ban

    I think the burka is stupid, but so is trying to ban it.
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    Re: Five European states back burka ban

    Now, there is a Euro policy I can appreciate!
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