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    Re: Five European states back burka ban

    My points are quite legitimate - you just don't want to accept that your argument for the ban is biased.
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    Re: Five European states back burka ban

    Quote Originally Posted by Councilman View Post
    As much as I hate to be the bearer of bad news it's too late to stop Muslim influence in Europe or North America.

    The spread of members of this cult of hate and repression are set to dominate the world if the spread of of the cult is not stopped and very soon.

    Only a cult teaches a reward for the murder of innocent people and subjugates and represses woman.

    Until the west has guts enough to tell the truth about this cult the war on terror and the spread of the cult will continue.

    I don't see the wearing of the Burka as a threat but the teachings most certainly are a threat to Governments and anyone who will not submit to the cult.

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    I'm all for burka bans. However ironically your description of radical Islam isn't that far off from extremist Christianity either (they just don't have the legal power to enact their intentions - unlike radical Muslims). But I'll probably get labeled a bigot for calling a duck a duck when it comes to Talibangelicals, but not Muslims. Ironic, no?

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    Re: Five European states back burka ban

    Quote Originally Posted by Aunt Spiker View Post
    My points are quite legitimate - you just don't want to accept that your argument for the ban is biased.
    You are not a mindreader and its extremely arrogant for you to assume the worst in people who vote against them especially when you have no evidence of that claim..
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    Re: Five European states back burka ban

    Quote Originally Posted by Toothpicvic View Post
    I'm all for burka bans. However ironically your description of radical Islam isn't that far off from extremist Christianity either (they just don't have the legal power to enact their intentions - unlike radical Muslims). But I'll probably get labeled a bigot for calling a duck a duck when it comes to Talibangelicals, but not Muslims. Ironic, no?
    There is a huge difference in the amount of violence in even the last 100 years between the two religions so making a direct comparison is laughable.

    You aren't a bigot but you did just make a completely inaccurate comparison.
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    Re: Five European states back burka ban

    Quote Originally Posted by texmaster View Post
    You are not a mindreader and its extremely arrogant for you to assume the worst in people who vote against them especially when you have no evidence of that claim..

    I have yet to hear a legitimate reason to ban the burqa. It all is illegitimate, based on unwarrented fear, misplaced blame, paranoia, and people who consider things as in a worst case scenerio light only.

    Have your view all you like, thankfully banning the burqa in the United States would violate the 1st Amendment and be knocked down if brought before Congress or the SCOTUS.
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    Re: Five European states back burka ban

    Yes let's take away people's freedom of religion (I'm not going into whether this is religious or not again. Saints aren't in the Bible. Are they not religious?) away, and all of the wife beating, honor killing, other subjagation of women, and "Islam taking over our culture" will end.
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    Re: Five European states back burka ban

    In many of these countries though they are violating religious freedom. They give Muslims special communities so they can subjugate each other to legally binding Shari'ah law. While at the same time they silence Christianity and discriminate in favor of Muslims. I don't really support a Burqa ban (accept for in airports, who knows what they could smuggle in there), but I also think they need to remove the Shari'ah communities, this is more unconstitutional and is completely against a church and state separation.

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    Re: Five European states back burka ban

    Quote Originally Posted by DrunkenAsparagus View Post
    Yes let's take away people's freedom of religion (I'm not going into whether this is religious or not again. Saints aren't in the Bible. Are they not religious?) away, and all of the wife beating, honor killing, other subjagation of women, and "Islam taking over our culture" will end.
    No it won't - violence against women and children exists separate from all these things. I feel (yes, purely my opinion) that people use their religion, culture, society norms and governmental rule (or lack of ) simply as an excuse to commit such acts.

    Not all - but alot.

    I think that any couple is subject to less than favorable situations in which one is abused as well as any family having twisted and bizarre standards which they hold the children up to.
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    Re: Five European states back burka ban

    Quote Originally Posted by texmaster View Post
    You have GOT to be kidding with that comparison

    The burka is not part of a religious order of Islam!

    Did you even know that?
    The burqa is absolutely worn as an expression of a religious obligation. The claim that it's somehow areligious because its origin wasn't solely rooted in a church is ridiculous.

    Seriously, that comparison is really pathetic. Try reading how terrorists exploit the anaminity of the burka I listed below as a device to conseal their identity.

    When you have men dressed as nun's blowing up crowds of people you be sure to let us know mmmkay?
    Which means what? You're saying that the government should be able to take away rights because some people might do something bad with that right. Do you support gun bans because other people might commit crimes with guns?
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    Re: Five European states back burka ban

    The fact that there are Americans in favor of this ban is absolutely mind-boggling.

    Just so you understand, you're favoring a government deciding what people can wear in a manner directed solely at one particular religion.
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