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    Re: Russia's Olympic 'humiliation'

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    What the hell are you talking about? Shame, what shame? These athletes are people that want to go compete. So a country that lives in the snow made a lot of medals in the winter Olympics, are you surprised? How well do they do in the Summer Games? Well they get there head stomped in don't they? Man get outta here.

    Humiliation/shame. Why do this to yourself?
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    Re: Russia's Olympic 'humiliation'

    Quote Originally Posted by Manc Skipper View Post
    Humiliation/shame. Why do this to yourself?
    I think you've gone off the deep end. You don't make any sense.
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    Did I read somewhere that most of Canada's medals were won by the female team members? Great job.
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    yeah, and go us Aussies, 14th and we only have half a dozen places that actually get snow
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    Re: Russia's Olympic 'humiliation'

    Quote Originally Posted by PeteEU View Post
    To be fair, Germany and Norway usually beat the US on medals. Now Canada also being up there, just shows how much home advantage can have.

    In the end they are all winners for having been there, whether it is the US hockey team, or the Ghanaian skier.

    Sure, we won twice as many gold as in Turin, but we totalled only 2 more overall medals on home soil.
    No men are anywhere, and Im allowed to go in, because Im the owner of the pageant and therefore Im inspecting it, Trump said... Is everyone OK? You know, theyre standing there with no clothes. Is everybody OK? And you see these incredible looking women, and so I sort of get away with things like that.

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    Does anyone have an opinion on the Russians?
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    Re: Russia's Olympic 'humiliation'

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    Does anyone have an opinion on the Russians?
    I just think that without the staunch Commie bear funding and pushing Russian athletes to prove Communism is the best thing since sliced bread - their performance isn't as spectacular. I think it has to do with motivation, national pride, competitive spirit and a whole host of individual things that are intangible... and Russia's in a bit of a rut is all.
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    Re: Russia's Olympic 'humiliation'

    Quote Originally Posted by Ockham View Post
    I just think that without the staunch Commie bear funding and pushing Russian athletes to prove Communism is the best thing since sliced bread - their performance isn't as spectacular. I think it has to do with motivation, national pride, competitive spirit and a whole host of individual things that are

    Quite

    The collapse of the economy in the 90's would have resulted in its athletic programs being gutted, followed by a large number of Russian migrating, the likely hood of Russia being able to maintain it's medal count would have been difficult.

    Over the last 8 year's the Russian economy has improved but I doubt the grassroots athletic programs have not been restored, meaning that Sochi is not going to see a huge increase in the medal count for Russia

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    I think it's not so much the people as the cheating of the old Soviet system which trotted out professional athletes as amateurs while the West actually produced amateur athletes.
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    Re: Russia's Olympic 'humiliation'

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    I think it's not so much the people as the cheating of the old Soviet system which trotted out professional athletes as amateurs while the West actually produced amateur athletes.
    I believe that most so called western Athletes are not publically funded, I am quite certain this is not true of say China. Whereas Russia or rather USSR used to fund the training in all disciplines of all it's entrants into International sporting events.
    If such funding no longer happens then the failure of Russia to gain more medals inevitably falls to the failure to have either good enough trainers or good enough athletes or a mixture of both.

    Russia has since the collapse of Communism not had any coherent laws in place, everything that is important is done to the wishes and desires of Putin and his Puppets, if a businessman tries to go against Putin he is either rapidly brought to heel or charged with some Tax crime and sentenced to an indeterminate time in prison.
    Until such time as Russia adopts a set of laws that apply as equally as possible to all it's citizens, it will continue to fail in it's attempts to become a civilized society.

    Medvedev as Putin's main puppet merely echoed his master when he blamed anyone other than those responsible for failure.

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