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    PA. Man dies during storm when 911 calls unheeded

    A man in Pittsburgh died when EMT's were unable to reach his apartment. Granted that it was snowing like hell, the responder's didn't even get out of their ambulance to carry the guy out of his apartment. Several calls were made, 3 ambulances dispatched, but they never reached the guy.

    Details of Mitchell's calls weren't passed on from one 911 operator to another as shifts changed, so each call was treated as a new incident.

    Twice, ambulances were as close as a quarter-mile from Mitchell's home but drivers said deep snow prevented the vehicles from crossing a small bridge over railroad tracks to reach him. Mitchell was told each time he'd have to walk through the snow to the ambulances; in neither case did paramedics walk to get him.

    Once, an ambulance made it across the bridge and was at the opposite end of the block on the narrow street where the couple lived a little more than a football field's length. Again, paramedics didn't try to walk.
    Pa. man dies during storm when 911 calls unheeded - Yahoo! News

    I know this is a one time thing, but I think this needs some rule to make sure it doesn't happen again. The one where responders have to go to the door sounds good to me.
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    Re: PA. Man dies during storm when 911 calls unheeded

    I don't know what to say about this without more information. I think at very least, the calls should have not been treated like new calls.

    However, if the medical personnel cannot get through, they cannot get through. Earlier, the problem was not considered life threatening. So should they risk their lives to get to someone who waited a week to call for help? The article said the man had been in pain all week after having been hospitalized for pancreatis for 9 days last month. He knew a wicked storm was coming. Didn't he think it wise to get it checked out before the Heavens opened up and started dumping tons of snow? I know I would have.

    The headline is misleading. The calls were not unheeded. The ambulance drivers could not get through.

    It's sad, and perhaps 911 did some things wrong. But it's not entirely their fault.
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    Re: PA. Man dies during storm when 911 calls unheeded

    Quote Originally Posted by StandUpChuck View Post
    I don't know what to say about this without more information. I think at very least, the calls should have not been treated like new calls.

    However, if the medical personnel cannot get through, they cannot get through. Earlier, the problem was not considered life threatening. So should they risk their lives to get to someone who waited a week to call for help? The article said the man had been in pain all week after having been hospitalized for pancreatis for 9 days last month. He knew a wicked storm was coming. Didn't he think it wise to get it checked out before the Heavens opened up and started dumping tons of snow? I know I would have.

    The headline is misleading. The calls were not unheeded. The ambulance drivers could not get through.

    It's sad, and perhaps 911 did some things wrong. But it's not entirely their fault.
    I agree with you that this man should have had his stomach checked out beforehand, but you can't completely take the blame off the responders. They were within a football field's length of the guy's house, when he was a medium priority, they should have walked out, and at least checked up on him.
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    Re: PA. Man dies during storm when 911 calls unheeded

    Quote Originally Posted by repeter View Post
    I agree with you that this man should have had his stomach checked out beforehand, but you can't completely take the blame off the responders. They were within a football field's length of the guy's house, when he was a medium priority, they should have walked out, and at least checked up on him.
    Their call. Medics are not obligated to risk their own lives to assist others. If we were, I'd have been getting paid a ****load more than minimum wage when I drove an ambulance.

    Secondly, they may not have been *allowed* to per their dispatch. If they're going to do something like that, they have to notify and get permission from their dispatch.

    Hell, if we were on a call for a domestic dispute, knife wound, or gunshot wound, we weren't even allowed to get out of the ambulance until the cops cleared the scene.

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    Re: PA. Man dies during storm when 911 calls unheeded

    Quote Originally Posted by repeter View Post
    A man in Pittsburgh died when EMT's were unable to reach his apartment. Granted that it was snowing like hell, the responder's didn't even get out of their ambulance to carry the guy out of his apartment. Several calls were made, 3 ambulances dispatched, but they never reached the guy.



    Pa. man dies during storm when 911 calls unheeded - Yahoo! News

    I know this is a one time thing, but I think this needs some rule to make sure it doesn't happen again. The one where responders have to go to the door sounds good to me.
    Government agents are under no legal obligation to assist anyone for any reason. That's why I always shake my head at people who depend upon the police to protect them and save them from criminals.

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    Re: PA. Man dies during storm when 911 calls unheeded

    Nearly 30 hours later — and 10 calls from the couple to 911


    Hour 2, and the second call, my truck becomes a makeshift ambulance and we get ourselves to the hospital....


    Waiting 30 hours around to die? ghosts of NOLO come to mind..
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    Re: PA. Man dies during storm when 911 calls unheeded

    Quote Originally Posted by Reverend_Hellh0und View Post
    Hour 2, and the second call, my truck becomes a makeshift ambulance and we get ourselves to the hospital....


    Waiting 30 hours around to die? ghosts of NOLO come to mind..
    Or, you know, you walk to the ambulance.

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    Re: PA. Man dies during storm when 911 calls unheeded

    Quote Originally Posted by rivrrat View Post
    Or, you know, you walk to the ambulance.



    Or put the sick mofo on the kids flexible flier and drag his ass to the hospital...


    I'd love to see the address of this 911 call so I could google map it.
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    Re: PA. Man dies during storm when 911 calls unheeded

    Twice, ambulances were as close as a quarter-mile from Mitchell's home but drivers said deep snow prevented the vehicles from crossing a small bridge over railroad tracks to reach him. Mitchell was told each time he'd have to walk through the snow to the ambulances; in neither case did paramedics walk to get him.

    "... You get out of that damn truck and you walk to the residence," Huss said. "That's what needed to happen. We could have carried him out."





    So the mans life was as as valuable as 10 feet.
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    Re: PA. Man dies during storm when 911 calls unheeded

    Quote Originally Posted by Reverend_Hellh0und View Post



    So the mans life was as as valuable as 10 feet.
    More like over 100 yards. Through 2ft of snow and ice. If it would have been so easy for them to walk it, then surely he or his girlfriend could have. Apparently, it wasn't so easy.

    Still their call. He wasn't listed as life threatening emergency anyway.

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