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    Re: PA. Man dies during storm when 911 calls unheeded

    Quote Originally Posted by liblady View Post
    seems we know a lot of the facts. the man wasn't capable of walking, clearly. he died, remember, so i doubt he was faking it.



    "They didn't have a car. During the storm, a neighbor offered to drive them to a hospital but he couldn't get his car shoveled out. "


    His life wasn't worth 1 out of 30 hrs of shoveling?


    "As the hours went by, Mitchell's pain intensified and he began to have shortness of breath. Because he complained of abdominal pain, which is generally not considered life-threatening, he was initially ranked as a medium priority. About 11:20 a.m. Saturday, his priority level was upgraded, but not as an emergency.

    Mitchell tried to sleep. He took his prescriptions — oxycodone for pain and sleeping pills for his insomnia. Edge gave him the medication and closely followed the dosage, she said.

    "All that time, he was dying and I didn't even know it," Edge said.



    Edge didn't even know he was dying.



    It's a tragedy, but several things come to mind....


    1. If I call for an ambulance, and it does not get to my place within an hour. I will find other means, like shoveling out the snowbound car.

    2. Neighbors could have carried him to the ambulance. Wrong or right, he'd be alive today.

    3. he was triaged as "medium priority" sucks, but mistakes happen...
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    Re: PA. Man dies during storm when 911 calls unheeded

    A few years ago, my street was a private street. We had a huge snow storm, and the next morning while it was still snowing, one of the neighbors started to go into labor. Every able body person on the street got out their shovels and hand shoveled that road so the mom to be could be driven to the hospital. Not a soul wanted her to sit there waiting for someone else to risk their necks. It was hard work. It wasn't fun, and our backs ached. But that's just what decent people do for each other.

    30 hours, ambulences periodically showing up and being unable to pass, yet not one of this dude's neighbors (who he allegedly helped all the time) got out of their warm homes and helped clear snow? Buncha dicks if you ask me.
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    Re: PA. Man dies during storm when 911 calls unheeded

    Quote Originally Posted by Reverend_Hellh0und View Post
    "They didn't have a car. During the storm, a neighbor offered to drive them to a hospital but he couldn't get his car shoveled out. "


    His life wasn't worth 1 out of 30 hrs of shoveling?


    "As the hours went by, Mitchell's pain intensified and he began to have shortness of breath. Because he complained of abdominal pain, which is generally not considered life-threatening, he was initially ranked as a medium priority. About 11:20 a.m. Saturday, his priority level was upgraded, but not as an emergency.

    Mitchell tried to sleep. He took his prescriptions — oxycodone for pain and sleeping pills for his insomnia. Edge gave him the medication and closely followed the dosage, she said.

    "All that time, he was dying and I didn't even know it," Edge said.



    Edge didn't even know he was dying.



    It's a tragedy, but several things come to mind....


    1. If I call for an ambulance, and it does not get to my place within an hour. I will find other means, like shoveling out the snowbound car.

    2. Neighbors could have carried him to the ambulance. Wrong or right, he'd be alive today.

    3. he was triaged as "medium priority" sucks, but mistakes happen...
    everyone doesn't have equal ability to figure out what's going on. the ambulance drivers could have carried him, too, and they didn't, after 30 hours.

    yes, his neighbors may have failed him, but the simple act of making sure sure the next shifts knew about him might have saved him.

    like i said, i hope the dispatchers responsible lose their jobs, and the paramedics who wouldn't get out of the ambulance to get him lose their jobs as well.

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    Re: PA. Man dies during storm when 911 calls unheeded

    Quote Originally Posted by StandUpChuck View Post
    A few years ago, my street was a private street. We had a huge snow storm, and the next morning while it was still snowing, one of the neighbors started to go into labor. Every able body person on the street got out their shovels and hand shoveled that road so the mom to be could be driven to the hospital. Not a soul wanted her to sit there waiting for someone else to risk their necks. It was hard work. It wasn't fun, and our backs ached. But that's just what decent people do for each other.

    30 hours, ambulences periodically showing up and being unable to pass, yet not one of this dude's neighbors (who he allegedly helped all the time) got out of their warm homes and helped clear snow? Buncha dicks if you ask me.



    exactly............
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    Re: PA. Man dies during storm when 911 calls unheeded

    Quote Originally Posted by StandUpChuck View Post
    A few years ago, my street was a private street. We had a huge snow storm, and the next morning while it was still snowing, one of the neighbors started to go into labor. Every able body person on the street got out their shovels and hand shoveled that road so the mom to be could be driven to the hospital. Not a soul wanted her to sit there waiting for someone else to risk their necks. It was hard work. It wasn't fun, and our backs ached. But that's just what decent people do for each other.

    30 hours, ambulences periodically showing up and being unable to pass, yet not one of this dude's neighbors (who he allegedly helped all the time) got out of their warm homes and helped clear snow? Buncha dicks if you ask me.
    that's quite possible, but it doesn't excuse the city.

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    Re: PA. Man dies during storm when 911 calls unheeded

    Quote Originally Posted by Reverend_Hellh0und View Post
    pancreatitus? Bet he was mowing on chicken wings 30 hrs earlier when the lard hit the pancreus...


    30 hrs, I'd make other arrangments 28hrs earlier.
    rev, that's a completely assinine thing to say.

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    Re: PA. Man dies during storm when 911 calls unheeded

    Quote Originally Posted by liblady View Post
    rev, that's a completely assinine thing to say.



    pancratitus is often caused by eating way too much fat.




    "Alcohol abuse and gallstones are the two main causes of pancreatitis, accounting for 80%-90% of all cases. "




    Gallstones Causes, Symptoms, Diagnosis, and Treatment by eMedicineHealth.com

    "•We do know that anything that increases the level of cholesterol in the blood increases the risk of gallstones.


    •It is reasonable to assume that a diet with large amounts of cholesterol and other fats increases the risk of gallstones."





    I base my assumption on fact.
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    Re: PA. Man dies during storm when 911 calls unheeded

    Quote Originally Posted by Reverend_Hellh0und View Post
    pancratitus is often caused by eating way too much fat.




    "Alcohol abuse and gallstones are the two main causes of pancreatitis, accounting for 80%-90% of all cases. "




    Gallstones Causes, Symptoms, Diagnosis, and Treatment by eMedicineHealth.com

    "•We do know that anything that increases the level of cholesterol in the blood increases the risk of gallstones.


    •It is reasonable to assume that a diet with large amounts of cholesterol and other fats increases the risk of gallstones."





    I base my assumption on fact.
    assume what you want, and you may be right, but it was an assinine AND uncalled comment. the guy is dead.

    next time someone in your family, or a friend, has a heart attack and dies, i wonder if you'll be that flippant?

    Originally Posted by johnny_rebson:

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    Re: PA. Man dies during storm when 911 calls unheeded

    Quote Originally Posted by liblady View Post
    assume what you want, and you may be right, but it was an assinine AND uncalled comment. the guy is dead.

    Some poor bastard, whom I didn't know is dead in the news. So what if I comment that his lifestyle choices prolly played a huge roll in his death.


    next time someone in your family, or a friend, has a heart attack and dies, i wonder if you'll be that flippant?

    Prolly not, unless it's old uncle kenny, no one likes him anyway.
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    Re: PA. Man dies during storm when 911 calls unheeded

    Quote Originally Posted by rivrrat View Post
    Or, you know, you walk to the ambulance.
    While in the throws of an attack of pancreatitis?


    Quote Originally Posted by rivrrat View Post
    More like over 100 yards. Through 2ft of snow and ice. If it would have been so easy for them to walk it, then surely he or his girlfriend could have. Apparently, it wasn't so easy.

    Still their call. He wasn't listed as life threatening emergency anyway.
    Again, while in severe abdominal pain, while able bodied ambulance workers could have made the distance more easily and at least come to the door to check him.

    Quote Originally Posted by liblady View Post
    seems we know a lot of the facts. the man wasn't capable of walking, clearly. he died, remember, so i doubt he was faking it.
    Exactly, he was freaking sick and in pain.

    Quote Originally Posted by Reverend_Hellh0und View Post
    "They didn't have a car. During the storm, a neighbor offered to drive them to a hospital but he couldn't get his car shoveled out. "


    His life wasn't worth 1 out of 30 hrs of shoveling?


    "As the hours went by, Mitchell's pain intensified and he began to have shortness of breath. Because he complained of abdominal pain, which is generally not considered life-threatening, he was initially ranked as a medium priority. About 11:20 a.m. Saturday, his priority level was upgraded, but not as an emergency.

    Mitchell tried to sleep. He took his prescriptions — oxycodone for pain and sleeping pills for his insomnia. Edge gave him the medication and closely followed the dosage, she said.

    "All that time, he was dying and I didn't even know it," Edge said.



    Edge didn't even know he was dying.



    It's a tragedy, but several things come to mind....


    1. If I call for an ambulance, and it does not get to my place within an hour. I will find other means, like shoveling out the snowbound car.

    2. Neighbors could have carried him to the ambulance. Wrong or right, he'd be alive today.

    3. he was triaged as "medium priority" sucks, but mistakes happen...

    If his neighbors could have carried him, a very treacherous thing to do in a driving snow storm, then again, ABLE BODIED, WELL CONDITIONED ambulance workers could have walked to the door.


    This blame the sick victim mentality is ridiculous. He was sick and in severe pain. You guys keep saying he could have walked, should have walked but once more I point out, able bodied ambulance workers were a football field away.

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