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    Re: 23,000 now expected to lose jobs after shuttle retirement

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    It doesn't limit other kinds of pork either.
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    Re: 23,000 now expected to lose jobs after shuttle retirement

    To play devil's advocate, the technological development NASA has achieved has benefited America and the world as a whole tremendously. Necessity is the mother of invention, and space travel creates a lot of necessity! So many challenges have to be overcome, you can't help but discover things along the way.

    I definitely do not consider space travel as a whole to be wasteful spending at all, but the shuttle program proved to be a misstep.
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    Re: 23,000 now expected to lose jobs after shuttle retirement

    When I want something done, I go to who has the most experience especially when lives are at stake.

    It has been said here that it will be better to let private companies take over space exploration.

    What private company has more experience than NASA?

    When that private company starts business, they will have to go through a lot of trial and error to get things right.

    Nasa has a lot of time and know how under their belt.

    I hope Obama funds NASA in the future to get back on track and not let the deaths of the shuttle astronauts be in vain

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    Re: 23,000 now expected to lose jobs after shuttle retirement

    Quote Originally Posted by Chappy View Post
    I believe robotic space exploration is the way to go for the foreseeable future and the Hubble space telescope demonstrates that the people's imagination and support can be obtained by such.
    You mean the same Hubble Space Telescope that didn't work when launched and required...um, how to say this delicately...um...MEN in space to effect the necessary repairs to the robot?

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    Re: 23,000 now expected to lose jobs after shuttle retirement

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    National defense priority? In a pigs eye. It's just something to spend money on. We already have a national defense that was built on the space program. It is called nuclear missiles.
    Yes, many people don't like the idea of national defense.

    When the potential enemy is in the possession of missiles that can be launched undetetably, stealthed from radar detection, and can hit their target from the zenith at a seven-mile-per second approach speed, or faster, let us know how current technology defends against that, okay?

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    Kind of funny that you call yourself a Conservative, when you support unnecessary government spending like this. Read your Constitution again, and show me where it says that government spending like this is written into it. NOTE - I am half expecting you to mention the "general welfare" clause, like the Liberals do.

    Meanwhile, let those who get laid off from NASA find something in the private sector.
    I don't call myself a conservative. I'm a libertarian. Libertarians recognize the need for a strong national defense, since libertarians recognize that freedom isn't preserved if the nation isn't preserved.

    But you have to build your strawmen where you can beat on them, I suppose, if it makes you happy.

    I already stated the manned space program is a national defense issue, and you've already rejected the idea of national defense.

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    Re: 23,000 now expected to lose jobs after shuttle retirement

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    No, it doesn't. It doesn't limit other kinds of pork either.
    Yes, it does.

    Read the Tenth Amendment.

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    Re: 23,000 now expected to lose jobs after shuttle retirement

    Quote Originally Posted by Ethereal View Post
    … Who repairs the Hubble telescope?
    Oh, I thought I made this clear before.

    Hubble won't be repaired because it will be replaced with the next generation of space-based telescopes which will be far more powerful than Hubble ever was.

    Space exploration will continue but for the foreseeable future it will be robotic, not manned. Robots are far more capable, pound for pound, and far less vulnerable than human beings.

    The space shuttle program confirmed two things we should have known before we started: sending people into space will always be expensive and it will always carry significant risks.
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    Re: 23,000 now expected to lose jobs after shuttle retirement

    Quote Originally Posted by Chappy View Post
    Oh, I thought I made this clear before.

    Hubble won't be repaired because it will be replaced with the next generation of space-based telescopes which will be far more powerful than Hubble ever was.

    Space exploration will continue but for the foreseeable future it will be robotic, not manned. Robots are far more capable, pound for pound, and far less vulnerable than human beings.

    The space shuttle program confirmed two things we should have known before we started: sending people into space will always be expensive and it will always carry significant risks.
    Since you decided to ignore the rest of my post, I'll just return the favor...

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    Re: 23,000 now expected to lose jobs after shuttle retirement

    Quote Originally Posted by phattonez View Post
    First off, that's a terrible argument. National defense isn't an inherent good. At some point you have more defense than you need and in starts to cut into things that people really want unnecessarily.
    That's what the Persians, Trojans, Romans, Hittites, Athenians, Romans.......and British said.

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    Re: 23,000 now expected to lose jobs after shuttle retirement

    Quote Originally Posted by Scarecrow Akhbar View Post
    So, the Messiah's message of hope for the future, by actually destroying efforts to build that future, will destroy hope as well.

    But it'll make the Chinese and Russians happy.
    So the government should be handing out and guaranteeing jobs?
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