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    Re: 23,000 now expected to lose jobs after shuttle retirement

    Quote Originally Posted by phattonez View Post
    Good. Free up that money for more worthwhile and necessary ventures.
    I am prohibited by the rules from characterizing this post in the manner which it deserves, but suffice to say the benefits to not only this country but mankind from the technology developed to make possible space travel is almost beyond the scope of imagination.

    The farther man reaches the more we all benefit from it not only in terms of items like calculators, better and faster computers, but travel in general, and medical advances.

    Yes it costs a lot but it has positive returns, and opens up the creation of new industries, creating jobs that require better education and a cycle of good things come from it.

    It does have a human cost, as about five percent of the people that have been launched have died doing so (because astronauts often launch more than once). As of now about 500 individuals have flown on space flights from Russia/Soviet Union, the USA, and others. Twenty-two have died while in a spacecraft in the Russian program and in the Shuttle program, and that ain't bad for such a dangerous thing to be doing.

    So please do some research before you condemn what you clearly have no knowledge of.

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    Re: 23,000 now expected to lose jobs after shuttle retirement

    Quote Originally Posted by RightinNYC View Post
    Your reference to the Iraq war situation is particularly apt. Just like it's ridiculous to act like Obama is responsible for the orderly winding down and decreased fatalities in Iraq when all he's doing is following Bush's plan, it's equally ridiculous to act like Obama is responsible for the retirement of the space shuttle when all he's doing is following Bush's plan.
    He doesn't have to follow Bush's plan; ultimately, it is his decision.

    Personally, I think this is a bad idea. Space exploration is absolutely critical to the advancement of our society. The technological and strategic advantages it has created over the years are prolific, and leaving space to the Chinese and Russians is not a wise longterm decision for America or humanity.

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    Re: 23,000 now expected to lose jobs after shuttle retirement

    This is going to make it considerably more difficult for me to find a new job. And regardless of my personal stake in the situation, I think Obama is making a huge mistake by cancelling the shuttle program.
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    Re: 23,000 now expected to lose jobs after shuttle retirement

    Quote Originally Posted by Manc Skipper View Post
    How soon they forget. Here's a flashback to 2008 when the final decision was made. Who was the incumbent President then?

    "The Shuttle program is scheduled for mandatory retirement in 2010. The program has been criticized for failing to achieve its promised cost and utility goals, as well as design, cost, management, and safety issues.

    The total cost of the Shuttle program has been $145 billion as of early 2005 , and is estimated to be $174 billion when the Shuttle retires in 2010. NASA’s budget for 2005 allocated 30%, or $5 billion, to Space Shuttle operations; this was decreased in 2006 to a request of $4.3 billion. ... "

    Space Shuttle will be retired in 2010 | Kevin Colby: News and Political blog
    No one is talking only of the Shuttle program, nice try but EPIC FAIL. We talking about the manned space program. Obama wants to use NASA for his personal environmental agenda to place the world under the thumb of global warming.
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    Re: 23,000 now expected to lose jobs after shuttle retirement

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    No one is talking only of the Shuttle program, nice try but EPIC FAIL. We talking about the manned space program. Obama wants to use NASA for his personal environmental agenda to place the world under the thumb of global warming.
    Clearly he is working in cahoots with the lizard people. THE LIZARD PEOPLE I TELL YA
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    Re: 23,000 now expected to lose jobs after shuttle retirement

    I love how the right wing is so quick to cry when one of their favorite useless programs is cut back or canceled. My first job in the civilian world was at a test reactor where materials were exposed to bursts of radiation with a long term goal of building submarine reactors that last longer. The engineers already knew from previous testing what to expect, but "there was money left in the budget" and they were going to retest and retest to use it all up.
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    Re: 23,000 now expected to lose jobs after shuttle retirement

    Quote Originally Posted by Lord Tammerlain View Post
    So the government should be protecting those jobs at the expense of private companies that are expanding space launch capabilities?
    Again and again it has been brought up that private companies don't have the budget or brain power necessary for space. So you fail.

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    Re: 23,000 now expected to lose jobs after shuttle retirement

    Quote Originally Posted by Gray_Fox_86 View Post
    Again and again it has been brought up that private companies don't have the budget or brain power necessary for space. So you fail.
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    Re: 23,000 now expected to lose jobs after shuttle retirement

    Quote Originally Posted by Gray_Fox_86 View Post
    Again and again it has been brought up that private companies don't have the budget or brain power necessary for space. So you fail.
    So the people who build the F22, F35, who also operate space launches are too stupid to build and launch rockets (despite the fact they already do)

    They dont have the budget because the government previously subsidied space launches. Now with the government out of the way, prices will rise in order to meet the true costs of putting objects into space.

    So I think the person who fails here is you

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    Re: 23,000 now expected to lose jobs after shuttle retirement

    Quote Originally Posted by Lord Tammerlain View Post
    So the people who build the F22, F35, who also operate space launches are too stupid to build and launch rockets (despite the fact they already do)

    They dont have the budget because the government previously subsidied space launches. Now with the government out of the way, prices will rise in order to meet the true costs of putting objects into space.

    So I think the person who fails here is you
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