Thank God they had thee smarts to do this..........There is no doubt that the PA has saved our ass from another attack on more then one occasion......
"God Bless Our Troops in Harms Way."
Oh boy oh boy, my favorite topic....
Furthermore, there is a definitive argument to make by "Temporary Safety". IE no one is saying "Hey, we're giving up the right to search and seizure forever in exchange for protecting you this one time". People like to ignore the "temporary" line of the second part because it doesn't help them.
Ditto as well for a "little". The Patriot Act completely revamps our intelligence gathering laws and bringing it out of the stone age and into the digital age where things like Chat Rooms, Forums, Instant Messaging, Cell Phones, and other things aren't simply seeds within the imagination of science fiction writers like William Gibson. The amount our laws were stretched, contorted , and manipulated to deal with technology prior to the Patriot Act was riddled with issues.
But I give you props for at least giving the correct quote. Most won't even try that.
In regards to this, excellent. I'm glad to see that when push comes to shove things like this that are needed stay in play. Without a doubt this bill needs to remain in place and is a vital part in intelligence gathering from the smallest of local domestic issues to national security impacting foreign.
The method in which the Patriot Act has been tempered, reforged, and cleaned is the method that needs to continue. Let the sunsets for the more extreme measures that were reasonable in the wake of 9/11 but are less worth while on the "liberty/security" scale expire. Let the ACLU succeed in the cases its correct on in regards to any particular portions of it that are unconstitutional and roll them back. Have senators put forge legislation to remove particular provisions if they feel they are wrong. All this is good.
But do not completely and utterly a bill that early on in its existence even staunch democrat Russ Fiengold has stated was 90% a sound and needed bill. On top of that, this statement came out long before a number of the provisions and measures have sunset or been struck down, likely meaning that % is much higher.
The politics behind this bill have made is so that if it was stricken down and had to be repassed it'd have a hard time, not because it wasn't needed but because of the specter of "patriot". Not to mention it would be a wasteful use of time that would leave our intelligence laws in this country to once again be woefully ancient during the period between it being struck down and the needed portions were placed back into the law.
Reauthorize it, keep it on the books, and continue the various avenues that have been working successfully at removing the portions of it that are either outright unconstitutional, questionable, or are no longer needed based on the distance we are from the most severe of situations.
"I am appalled that somebody who is the nominee...would take that kind of position"
"A court took away a presidency"
"...the brother of a man running for president was the governor of the state..."
It's horrifying because Trump is blunt instead of making overt implications.
The reality is that Bush like Obama have the executive responsibility. CONGRESS passed the Patriot Act. Just like CONGRESS voted OVERWHELMINGLY to extend it. Both parties.
Now...I know this may sound presumptuous...but Im guessing it is likely that congress probably has access to our nations intel reports. Im also guessing there are things that go on every day that they KNOW about that causes them to see the Patriot Act as a valuable weapon in the fight against our domestic enemies.
They are just corrupt and we all know better than all of them.
OK...maybe thats an AND...not an OR...I dont know...
Lets just make sure we keep the scorecard very clear...for the last 6 years or so democrats have been hammering away at the Evil Bush about the Patriot Act. Now...the DEMOCRATS...in control of house, senate and presidency...Rahm it through and extend it. Liars and hypocrites...all of them.
Of course...these are the same people that for the 8 years of the Clinton administration spoke regularly about Hussein and his known WMDs...only to weaken America in the following administration calling Bush a liar.
And dont think I dont get that the Republicans are just as bad. They do the same things. Its a universal ploy. We the people SHOULD deserve better, but as long as we keep sending the same clowns back to congress...we DONT deserve better and wont get better.
But remember that while the President has executive responsibility, and while Congress writes legislation, it is the President who signs legislation into law. And if Obama is going to get **** for allowing the Patriot Act to be extended, we need to remember that Bush deserves **** for passing the legislation in the first place.
As I've said, politicians on both sides love the Patriot Act but the people on both sides fear it.